Reply to Re: Religion
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September 3rd 2009, 07:17 PM
SkeleTony
Sparrowhawk:
You wrote:
"In the end, there is no way to 100% prove or disprove the existence of a God or other divine whatever."
False. The only gods which CANNOT be disproven are gods of ambiguity. 'The spiritual somethingness that is beyond something else and might be doing something' type gods. To those gods I am, as I stated previously, a weak atheist. To gods which CAN be proven to not exist(such as the Judeo-Christian god) I am a strong atheist because I can do so using logic. The classic example being that the Judeo-Christian god is said to be both free willed AND omniscient which is an impossibility due to the Law of non-contradiction. There are more...
[quote]It will always boil down to belief or opinion and that last statement of yours cannot be stated as fact:
"Worship is a bad and immoral idea. No being worthy of worship would want to be worshiped and worshiping ANYTHING is demeaning to the worshiper."
That's an opinion...[/quote]
You are correct that it is an opinion but I thought that was kind of obvious?! But it is an opinion that most/all rational people would agree with or would be danged hard pressed to come up with an argument that a being deserving of worship would want to BE worshiped! The only time we EVER disagree with this is when it is turned back on our gods. We do not say "Terrel Owens is deserving of worship" or that America(a very powerful entity) is deserving of worship and anyone coming out and saying "Worship me!" would be laughed at by most of us.
You wrote:
"In the end, there is no way to 100% prove or disprove the existence of a God or other divine whatever."
False. The only gods which CANNOT be disproven are gods of ambiguity. 'The spiritual somethingness that is beyond something else and might be doing something' type gods. To those gods I am, as I stated previously, a weak atheist. To gods which CAN be proven to not exist(such as the Judeo-Christian god) I am a strong atheist because I can do so using logic. The classic example being that the Judeo-Christian god is said to be both free willed AND omniscient which is an impossibility due to the Law of non-contradiction. There are more...
[quote]It will always boil down to belief or opinion and that last statement of yours cannot be stated as fact:
"Worship is a bad and immoral idea. No being worthy of worship would want to be worshiped and worshiping ANYTHING is demeaning to the worshiper."
That's an opinion...[/quote]
You are correct that it is an opinion but I thought that was kind of obvious?! But it is an opinion that most/all rational people would agree with or would be danged hard pressed to come up with an argument that a being deserving of worship would want to BE worshiped! The only time we EVER disagree with this is when it is turned back on our gods. We do not say "Terrel Owens is deserving of worship" or that America(a very powerful entity) is deserving of worship and anyone coming out and saying "Worship me!" would be laughed at by most of us.
