Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/19/02 - 09:45:21

Is it just my opinion, or is is a bit sly to give your own files a high mark (like simonk with his eyeball enemy)? If you give it a low mark, that's up to you, but If you ask me, all reviews by the creator should be invalidated, as it's just, well, silly!

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by dinkaholic on 06/20/02 - 11:36:23

All I want to say is that I personally take these reviews seriously. I haven't played a lot of dmods because when I read the reviews I didn't think it would be worth my time to play them. Now I've been reading in this thread that people are reviewing their own files and giving them high scores just to get points. That sucks the big one. I held high respect for you guys because I thought you took dinking seriously. Obviously I was wrong. It seems to me that this site is full of *monkeys* who's only goal in life is to turn something fun and fruitful into trash just to get a laugh, or worse, points. >(

Sorry, I think I got a little harsh there for a minute but what I wrote is what I believe to be the truth. Just because I don't post in every thread doesn't mean I'm not an active reviewer. I read the posts 2-3 times a day. I just don't always respond to them.

I think the reviews should be sacred for the "newbie". If a newbie reads the reviews and sees only good ratings, he/she is going to think its a good game. But when they play it and don't like it then what are they going to think of the reviews? They are going to think it full of crap. Then they are going to think everyone here is full of crap and this site is full of crap.

I know I'm full of crap thats why I'm rushing this post so I can take a dump.....:)

But seriously, can we keep the reviews honest? Don't be posting low scores to a good dmod because you're p**sed at the author, and don't give high scores to poor mods just to be on the good side of the author. Or for points. Maybe this site is just a pit stop for you guys between the beer and the women, but its losing its respect and I don't want to see that happen.

Sorry if I offended anyone but I just had to have my say.

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by PureEvil on 06/20/02 - 12:19:56

: All I want to say is that I personally take these reviews seriously. I haven't played a lot of dmods because when I read the reviews I didn't think it would be worth my time to play them. Now I've been reading in this thread that people are reviewing their own files and giving them high scores just to get points. That sucks the big one. I held high respect for you guys because I thought you took dinking seriously. Obviously I was wrong. It seems to me that this site is full of *monkeys* who's only goal in life is to turn something fun and fruitful into trash just to get a laugh, or worse, points. >(

: Sorry, I think I got a little harsh there for a minute but what I wrote is what I believe to be the truth. Just because I don't post in every thread doesn't mean I'm not an active reviewer. I read the posts 2-3 times a day. I just don't always respond to them.

: I think the reviews should be sacred for the "newbie". If a newbie reads the reviews and sees only good ratings, he/she is going to think its a good game. But when they play it and don't like it then what are they going to think of the reviews? They are going to think it full of crap. Then they are going to think everyone here is full of crap and this site is full of crap.

: I know I'm full of crap thats why I'm rushing this post so I can take a dump.....:)

: But seriously, can we keep the reviews honest? Don't be posting low scores to a good dmod because you're p**sed at the author, and don't give high scores to poor mods just to be on the good side of the author. Or for points. Maybe this site is just a pit stop for you guys between the beer and the women, but its losing its respect and I don't want to see that happen.

: Sorry if I offended anyone but I just had to have my say.

WTF! You've got to be kidding me. Your saying that someone that reviews his own file is not a serious author. Thats trash. I see no problem what-so-ever with an author grading his own work and making it known to those that may download it. I think you offend a lot of people with this this worthless rant. To even imply that Simon is out to "have a few laughs" or garner points is ridiculous. It folks like Sabre that wallow and b***h about points that bring the community down, not quality authors and their occasional grading of their work. If points were an issue (in this case with Simon), I think he proved he could roll out a DMOD every week if he wanted to. More than that, he could roll out half-assed mods twice a week. He proved with TCS that hes capable of giving us a great DMOD in very little time. Again, points are not an issue for the serious dinkers, but apparently, they are for 'the others'. I'm working on my first mod, but I truely believe I know enough scripting now that I could whip up a few small ones. I'm more interested in creating a quality game than I am in getting those silly points.

Sorry, this post didn't involve me at all, and you can flame me all you want, but saying things like that about quality people is just plain bad.

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by dinkaholic on 06/20/02 - 15:08:17

: : All I want to say is that I personally take these reviews seriously. I haven't played a lot of dmods because when I read the reviews I didn't think it would be worth my time to play them. Now I've been reading in this thread that people are reviewing their own files and giving them high scores just to get points. That sucks the big one. I held high respect for you guys because I thought you took dinking seriously. Obviously I was wrong. It seems to me that this site is full of *monkeys* who's only goal in life is to turn something fun and fruitful into trash just to get a laugh, or worse, points. >(

: : Sorry, I think I got a little harsh there for a minute but what I wrote is what I believe to be the truth. Just because I don't post in every thread doesn't mean I'm not an active reviewer. I read the posts 2-3 times a day. I just don't always respond to them.

: : I think the reviews should be sacred for the "newbie". If a newbie reads the reviews and sees only good ratings, he/she is going to think its a good game. But when they play it and don't like it then what are they going to think of the reviews? They are going to think it full of crap. Then they are going to think everyone here is full of crap and this site is full of crap.

: : I know I'm full of crap thats why I'm rushing this post so I can take a dump.....:)

: : But seriously, can we keep the reviews honest? Don't be posting low scores to a good dmod because you're p**sed at the author, and don't give high scores to poor mods just to be on the good side of the author. Or for points. Maybe this site is just a pit stop for you guys between the beer and the women, but its losing its respect and I don't want to see that happen.

: : Sorry if I offended anyone but I just had to have my say.

: WTF! You've got to be kidding me. Your saying that someone that reviews his own file is not a serious author. Thats trash. I see no problem what-so-ever with an author grading his own work and making it known to those that may download it. I think you offend a lot of people with this this worthless rant. To even imply that Simon is out to "have a few laughs" or garner points is ridiculous. It folks like Sabre that wallow and b***h about points that bring the community down, not quality authors and their occasional grading of their work. If points were an issue (in this case with Simon), I think he proved he could roll out a DMOD every week if he wanted to. More than that, he could roll out half-assed mods twice a week. He proved with TCS that hes capable of giving us a great DMOD in very little time. Again, points are not an issue for the serious dinkers, but apparently, they are for 'the others'. I'm working on my first mod, but I truely believe I know enough scripting now that I could whip up a few small ones. I'm more interested in creating a quality game than I am in getting those silly points.

: Sorry, this post didn't involve me at all, and you can flame me all you want, but saying things like that about quality people is just plain bad.

Where do you get off putting words in my mouth??? It was you who mentioned Simeon, not me. I didn't mention anyone and my implications were mainly for those who review their own bad files in order to make them seem good. Has Simeon made any bad files? If so, I haven't seen them. Apparently you must think so since you agressively implied that I was trashing him on a personal level. But I wasn't implying anything about him other than I don't think any author should review his/her own file because of prejeduice. Hell, even ehasl thinks his mod deserves better than a 8.9! And why does Sabre's oppinion bring this site down? Just because he disagrees with you oh high and mighty one? My MAIN point is that I want to see the reviews kept honest and as truthful as can be. How can this be if people review their own BAD files and give them good ratings? It just looks better if others brag about your work instead of youself. (Again my opinion). As far as Simeon goes his reviews of his own work doesn't matter. His dmods are the best so he can't disillusion anyone with his reviews. But what about an author with an adverage review of say a 6.5. What if he reviews his own giving it a say again a 8.9. Some newbies will read these reviews and think "well he thinks its good so I'll try it out." Then when he finds it isn't what he thought he is going to get a poor feeling about the reviews. Allowing authors to review their own work is going to trash the reviews eventually because the bad files will have good ratings and no one will know what to believe when they read the reviews. They'll have to play the game or review the file themselves to make an opinion. And if it comes to that then what good will the reviews be? That's what I'm getting at. Not about Simeon.

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by mimifish on 06/20/02 - 15:57:33

: Where do you get off putting words in my mouth??? It was you who mentioned Simeon, not me. I didn't mention anyone and my implications were mainly for those who review their own bad files in order to make them seem good. Has Simeon made any bad files? If so, I haven't seen them. Apparently you must think so since you agressively implied that I was trashing him on a personal level. But I wasn't implying anything about him other than I don't think any author should review his/her own file because of prejeduice. Hell, even ehasl thinks his mod deserves better than a 8.9! And why does Sabre's oppinion bring this site down? Just because he disagrees with you oh high and mighty one? My MAIN point is that I want to see the reviews kept honest and as truthful as can be. How can this be if people review their own BAD files and give them good ratings? It just looks better if others brag about your work instead of youself. (Again my opinion). As far as Simeon goes his reviews of his own work doesn't matter. His dmods are the best so he can't disillusion anyone with his reviews. But what about an author with an adverage review of say a 6.5. What if he reviews his own giving it a say again a 8.9. Some newbies will read these reviews and think "well he thinks its good so I'll try it out." Then when he finds it isn't what he thought he is going to get a poor feeling about the reviews. Allowing authors to review their own work is going to trash the reviews eventually because the bad files will have good ratings and no one will know what to believe when they read the reviews. They'll have to play the game or review the file themselves to make an opinion. And if it comes to that then what good will the reviews be? That's what I'm getting at. Not about Simeon.

First of all, it's SimonK, not Simeon, who is another Dinker. ;)

The reason that PureEvil took your point as for SimonK was just because SabreTrout started with SimonK and Jamie. Consider that SimonK did quite a lot of reviews for his own files. It is so easy to go his direction...

As for reviewing your own files, yes, you can manipulate the score by giving your own files extremely high scores, but as I said earlier, people can see the author's name and the reviewer's name. If an author just wrote untruthful review, people should know it right away. Other people can send in their reveiws, too. As for average scores, if 5 people give bad scores, the sole biased score won't change it too much.

I believed that Redink1 said earlier (when the review system was just implented) that authors can (and should) review his own files especially when the author's intend was misunderstood. Redink1 did review his own file, too. (At least once.) ;)

In fact, you can find more bad reviews written by normal Dinkers than authors. So far, I did not see many bad reviews written by authors for their own files. Slightly biased? Maybe, but not terribly wrong. On the other hand, people often gave a bad score to a dmod that they don't know how to beat... (Not because of bugs)

Maybe, an ideal review system should be as followed:

1. In addition to full and mini reviews, author's own review should be put into a separate category. It should weigh only half of the regular reviews in averaging the score.

2. Authors can add reply to other's reviews so that the author can clear up some untruthful contents in the review. This might not change the overall score, but at least give Dinkers who are interested in that file more insight about the file.

An untruthful review and score might cheat some newbies into downloading crap, but that shouldn't be a problem for other Dinkers if the reviewer has bad reputation.

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by dinkaholic on 06/20/02 - 17:10:31

: : Where do you get off putting words in my mouth??? It was you who mentioned Simeon, not me. I didn't mention anyone and my implications were mainly for those who review their own bad files in order to make them seem good. Has Simeon made any bad files? If so, I haven't seen them. Apparently you must think so since you agressively implied that I was trashing him on a personal level. But I wasn't implying anything about him other than I don't think any author should review his/her own file because of prejeduice. Hell, even ehasl thinks his mod deserves better than a 8.9! And why does Sabre's oppinion bring this site down? Just because he disagrees with you oh high and mighty one? My MAIN point is that I want to see the reviews kept honest and as truthful as can be. How can this be if people review their own BAD files and give them good ratings? It just looks better if others brag about your work instead of youself. (Again my opinion). As far as Simeon goes his reviews of his own work doesn't matter. His dmods are the best so he can't disillusion anyone with his reviews. But what about an author with an adverage review of say a 6.5. What if he reviews his own giving it a say again a 8.9. Some newbies will read these reviews and think "well he thinks its good so I'll try it out." Then when he finds it isn't what he thought he is going to get a poor feeling about the reviews. Allowing authors to review their own work is going to trash the reviews eventually because the bad files will have good ratings and no one will know what to believe when they read the reviews. They'll have to play the game or review the file themselves to make an opinion. And if it comes to that then what good will the reviews be? That's what I'm getting at. Not about Simeon.

: First of all, it's SimonK, not Simeon, who is another Dinker. ;)

: The reason that PureEvil took your point as for SimonK was just because SabreTrout started with SimonK and Jamie. Consider that SimonK did quite a lot of reviews for his own files. It is so easy to go his direction...

: As for reviewing your own files, yes, you can manipulate the score by giving your own files extremely high scores, but as I said earlier, people can see the author's name and the reviewer's name. If an author just wrote untruthful review, people should know it right away. Other people can send in their reveiws, too. As for average scores, if 5 people give bad scores, the sole biased score won't change it too much.

: I believed that Redink1 said earlier (when the review system was just implented) that authors can (and should) review his own files especially when the author's intend was misunderstood. Redink1 did review his own file, too. (At least once.) ;)

: In fact, you can find more bad reviews written by normal Dinkers than authors. So far, I did not see many bad reviews written by authors for their own files. Slightly biased? Maybe, but not terribly wrong. On the other hand, people often gave a bad score to a dmod that they don't know how to beat... (Not because of bugs)

: Maybe, an ideal review system should be as followed:

: 1. In addition to full and mini reviews, author's own review should be put into a separate category. It should weigh only half of the regular reviews in averaging the score.

: 2. Authors can add reply to other's reviews so that the author can clear up some untruthful contents in the review. This might not change the overall score, but at least give Dinkers who are interested in that file more insight about the file.

: An untruthful review and score might cheat some newbies into downloading crap, but that shouldn't be a problem for other Dinkers if the reviewer has bad reputation.

Sorry, I didn't know Simeon and SimonK were different dinkers. Thanks, mimifish, for coming into this with a level head. I got carried away again. I take the reviews very serious. That's why I don't like the idea of authors reviewing his/her own work. But thats just my opinion and I'll leave it at that.

PureEvil, sorry man, I got a little hot under the collar and came down on you kinka hard. Sorry.

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by PureEvil on 06/20/02 - 17:58:52

: : : Where do you get off putting words in my mouth??? It was you who mentioned Simeon, not me. I didn't mention anyone and my implications were mainly for those who review their own bad files in order to make them seem good. Has Simeon made any bad files? If so, I haven't seen them. Apparently you must think so since you agressively implied that I was trashing him on a personal level. But I wasn't implying anything about him other than I don't think any author should review his/her own file because of prejeduice. Hell, even ehasl thinks his mod deserves better than a 8.9! And why does Sabre's oppinion bring this site down? Just because he disagrees with you oh high and mighty one? My MAIN point is that I want to see the reviews kept honest and as truthful as can be. How can this be if people review their own BAD files and give them good ratings? It just looks better if others brag about your work instead of youself. (Again my opinion). As far as Simeon goes his reviews of his own work doesn't matter. His dmods are the best so he can't disillusion anyone with his reviews. But what about an author with an adverage review of say a 6.5. What if he reviews his own giving it a say again a 8.9. Some newbies will read these reviews and think "well he thinks its good so I'll try it out." Then when he finds it isn't what he thought he is going to get a poor feeling about the reviews. Allowing authors to review their own work is going to trash the reviews eventually because the bad files will have good ratings and no one will know what to believe when they read the reviews. They'll have to play the game or review the file themselves to make an opinion. And if it comes to that then what good will the reviews be? That's what I'm getting at. Not about Simeon.

: : First of all, it's SimonK, not Simeon, who is another Dinker. ;)

: : The reason that PureEvil took your point as for SimonK was just because SabreTrout started with SimonK and Jamie. Consider that SimonK did quite a lot of reviews for his own files. It is so easy to go his direction...

: : As for reviewing your own files, yes, you can manipulate the score by giving your own files extremely high scores, but as I said earlier, people can see the author's name and the reviewer's name. If an author just wrote untruthful review, people should know it right away. Other people can send in their reveiws, too. As for average scores, if 5 people give bad scores, the sole biased score won't change it too much.

: : I believed that Redink1 said earlier (when the review system was just implented) that authors can (and should) review his own files especially when the author's intend was misunderstood. Redink1 did review his own file, too. (At least once.) ;)

: : In fact, you can find more bad reviews written by normal Dinkers than authors. So far, I did not see many bad reviews written by authors for their own files. Slightly biased? Maybe, but not terribly wrong. On the other hand, people often gave a bad score to a dmod that they don't know how to beat... (Not because of bugs)

: : Maybe, an ideal review system should be as followed:

: : 1. In addition to full and mini reviews, author's own review should be put into a separate category. It should weigh only half of the regular reviews in averaging the score.

: : 2. Authors can add reply to other's reviews so that the author can clear up some untruthful contents in the review. This might not change the overall score, but at least give Dinkers who are interested in that file more insight about the file.

: : An untruthful review and score might cheat some newbies into downloading crap, but that shouldn't be a problem for other Dinkers if the reviewer has bad reputation.

: Sorry, I didn't know Simeon and SimonK were different dinkers. Thanks, mimifish, for coming into this with a level head. I got carried away again. I take the reviews very serious. That's why I don't like the idea of authors reviewing his/her own work. But thats just my opinion and I'll leave it at that.

: PureEvil, sorry man, I got a little hot under the collar and came down on you kinka hard. Sorry.

Hey, no prob. Its just that Sabre started the whole thing referring to SimonK, and I thought it was inappropriate. Truthfully, I should have just stayed out of it. Being a Public Administration major, I just can't seem to keep myself out of some arguments. At any rate, there doesn't seem to be a hugh problem on TDN with authors upping their DMOD ratings, and comments that might accuse someone like SimonK just sort of annoyed me. No harm done, my appologies too...

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/21/02 - 01:25:17

: Hey, no prob. Its just that Sabre started the whole thing referring to SimonK, and I thought it was inappropriate. Truthfully, I should have just stayed out of it. Being a Public Administration major, I just can't seem to keep myself out of some arguments. At any rate, there doesn't seem to be a hugh problem on TDN with authors upping their DMOD ratings, and comments that might accuse someone like SimonK just sort of annoyed me. No harm done, my appologies too...

I wasn't accusing Simon in particular, just he was the first person I thought of. And as for it being inappropraite, why?? It is a question (opinion?) on the way the review system is run, so of course it's appropriate. :)

Well said Dinkaholic!!

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/20/02 - 15:26:43

Well said! - or should that be typed?

:p:p:o:o:p:o:p:o:p:o:p:p:o

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/20/02 - 12:33:43

"It folks like Sabre that wallow and b***h about points that bring the community down"

and

"so put up or shut up"

These are the sort of comments that brings the community down!

I badly phrase a comment and half the network goes off on one about it!

It's not to do with having high points (well it is, but thats a small point) but i think that any review by the creator is going to be disregarded ( i know I ignore what the author says about his own file, but i can't speak for anyone else) as wrong, so they should not be able to review their own files. It's just crazy:o:o

No doubt someone will flame me again for this comment, but why the hell would I flame you?!?!?!

It's your opinion, and it's valid, so I'm not going to insult you. I would ask that you just stopped being silly;)

Re: Cheating reviewers!!

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/20/02 - 11:54:00

Yep, that is pretty much what I think. I probably shoould not have mentioned names like I did, but I was just showing examples. Whether it's for points or pure arrogance, or if you HATE a person, you should never make your reviews unfair.

But you should not be able to review your own files, thats still my main point!

Cheating means breaking the rules

Posted by SimonK on 06/20/02 - 02:19:55

And since there is no rule stopping authors reviewing their own work, they are not cheating.

What's up with you Sabre? First you say everything that has been released this month is half-arsed (does that apply to your releases too?) and now you call me a cheater? Show me which rule I've broken or as they say ... put up or shut up.

If an author reviews his/her file then they are going to be biased, that goes without saying, and anyone who dosen't realise that when they read such a review needs to have their head checked.

If you really are concerned about what ranking you are... release more DMODs... or tutorials... (contribute to the community instead of b***hing) or spend your spare time doing something really good... like reviewing every file ever released... but posting silly messages like this ain't gonna help you.

:p

Re: Cheating means breaking the rules

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/20/02 - 08:35:14

: And since there is no rule stopping authors reviewing their own work, they are not cheating.

: What's up with you Sabre? First you say everything that has been released this month is half-arsed (does that apply to your releases too?) and now you call me a cheater? Show me which rule I've broken or as they say ... put up or shut up.

: If an author reviews his/her file then they are going to be biased, that goes without saying, and anyone who dosen't realise that when they read such a review needs to have their head checked.

: If you really are concerned about what ranking you are... release more DMODs... or tutorials... (contribute to the community instead of b***hing) or spend your spare time doing something really good... like reviewing every file ever released... but posting silly messages like this ain't gonna help you.

: :p

Perhaps cheating is a little too strong a word, but it's the principle that matters (to me at least). I don't have a problem with people reviewing their own files, but IN MY OPINION i don't think it should be done, as I see reviews as other people's opinions on the file.

As for saying that everything was half-arsed, it was, at the time! Since then The Creeping Sands has been released (not half-arsed) as well as other nice files.

As for "bull***hing" (what the hell?), that means that I've been lying, which I have not done at all. I have simply puy my opinion on people reviewing their own files to light (in TOO strong a manner, I admit).

This has nothing to do with rankings, sa giving your own file a high score ain't gonna change it that much. It's just I believe that reviewing your own files defies the point.

Don't tell me to "put up or shut up"!! Who do you think you are? Mohammed I'm Well Hard Bruce Lee??:o

It wasn't a silly message in the slightest, I just made my point a bit too harsh on you and jamie, which I apologize for. The fact remains that I think that you should not be able to review your own files, and nothing will change that.

I think I touched a nerve with you there...

Calling me a cheater touched my nerve, nothing else

Posted by SimonK on 06/20/02 - 15:00:28

Apology accepted. Sorry for saying you were b***hing.

Re: Calling me a cheater touched my nerve, nothing else

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/20/02 - 15:02:37

: Apology accepted. Sorry for saying you were b***hing.

It's okay! I didn't really MEAN cheating, but I couldn't think of another way to phrase it while I typed.

Besides that, I was in an >( mood!

Re: Cheating reviewers!! What do you think?

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/19/02 - 11:09:40

: Is it just my opinion, or is is a bit sly to give your own files a high mark (like simonk with his eyeball enemy)? If you give it a low mark, that's up to you, but If you ask me, all reviews by the creator should be invalidated, as it's just, well, silly!

Another example : imacrazyguy gave his own midipack a 9.9!

Calm down...

Posted by mimifish on 06/19/02 - 11:36:22

:) ;) :p :o

The main purpose of the review system is to let people recommend/disapprove a file. Authors should have every right to submit their reviews to their own files especially when other reveiws do not get the whole point of the files. But if you always gave yourself extremely high scores while being very critical to others, people will soon know who they can't trust about the reviews.

I sense that a few people (including you ;)) take the "ranking" quite seriously, but I don't think it is redink1's intent, is it? ;) Dink community is a small community. Any Dinker can change a lot of things if he ask a few friends to become active Dinkers... ;)

Re: Calm down...

Posted by bin on 06/19/02 - 12:14:51

: :) ;) :p :o

: The main purpose of the review system is to let people recommend/disapprove a file. Authors should have every right to submit their reviews to their own files especially when other reveiws do not get the whole point of the files. But if you always gave yourself extremely high scores while being very critical to others, people will soon know who they can't trust about the reviews.

: I sense that a few people (including you ;)) take the "ranking" quite seriously, but I don't think it is redink1's intent, is it? ;) Dink community is a small community. Any Dinker can change a lot of things if he ask a few friends to become active Dinkers... ;)

I agree on the calm-down part; it'll only get you stressed! ;)

But for the other part, about authors reviewing their own files... I do agree that if reviewers don't get the point or the aim of the file, the author has every right to correct that - indeed he should do so otherwise the intent of the file is not clear.

But as mimifish said, 'the purpose of the review system is to let people recommend/disapprove a file'. People: other Dinkers. Every author thinks his file or D-mod is good, otherwise he would't release it. Right? So it's up to the others to decide what they think of it; cause that's what the review system is about. Giving points to your own file/D-mod seems therefore a bit strange to me. If that was the normal way to do things, the only thing SabreTrout had to do, was review his own file and give it an 9.9... (now why haven't you thougt of that, before starting this hassle? ;) :) )

And furthermore, if you give yourself high scores or let some friends of you do that in order to get a higher ranking, the people who know who is who and who is friens with whom, know that alright, but others (like newbies) don't. So they will judge a file by the score, not knowing the history behind the high or low score. And I don't think that's the aim of the reviews nor why the review system was developed.

Re: WHY DON'T YOU "Calm down..." ???

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/19/02 - 11:45:48

I don't take rankings very seriously, although I do like to be at the upper end.

And I do respect a creators rights to review their own work, but I'm tired of seeing things such as jamie giving a 9.9 to his own file, and simonk giving himself above a 9 for everything.

In my opinion, a review should come from others, or it does not mean much. Even if the creator gives his file a low score, I think it is wrong as they may be critical of their own work, which does not mean it's bad at all.

Reviews should be others opinions on your work, not yours. Just as pc games developers don't review their own games, neither should d-mod creators.

Just my thoughts...

Re: WHY DON'T YOU "Calm down..." ???

Posted by Tal on 06/19/02 - 12:26:15

Why doesn't mimifish calm down? Mimifish was never mad in the first place.

Get your facts straight.

Re: timeconsuming... ;)  eh... timeconfusing

Posted by bin on 06/19/02 - 12:20:21

: I don't take rankings very seriously, although I do like to be at the upper end.

: And I do respect a creators rights to review their own work, but I'm tired of seeing things such as jamie giving a 9.9 to his own file, and simonk giving himself above a 9 for everything.

: In my opinion, a review should come from others, or it does not mean much. Even if the creator gives his file a low score, I think it is wrong as they may be critical of their own work, which does not mean it's bad at all.

: Reviews should be others opinions on your work, not yours. Just as pc games developers don't review their own games, neither should d-mod creators.

: Just my thoughts...

Oh, I posted my other message - in reply to mimifish's - not knowing (as I was writing mine ofcourse!) that this one had already been posted... Oh... well...

Re: WHY DON'T YOU "Calm down..." ???

Posted by imacrazyguy on 06/19/02 - 12:02:18

Sabre --- I gave my file that because I recommended it. I also stated that I was reviewing it in the way that it was Marc's collection. This way, I reviewed it in a way that I thought was very good. Also, check my other reviews, I tend to give a lot of files high marks as I am a generous person... heh ;)

Jamie

PS --- Uh, nothing. I decided to type this because I am bored. Hmm, I have another point though ;) Sabre, look at the review I gave, not just plainly the score, you shouldn't test the file on the score, have a look through the review

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Re: WHY DON'T YOU "Calm down..." ???

Posted by SabreTrout on 06/19/02 - 13:55:57

Tal - If you read my post, you would see the title was just mocking what mimifish said. My post may have come over as "stressed", but I assure you I wasn't.

And Jamie, don't worry, I'm not criticising your review, but I DO feel that people should not be able to review their own files, as that just makes more sense to me :p

And some cool person has impersonated me, the clever monkey...

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