COTPATD Book - Volume 1 Near Final Draft
Hello,
I have a near-final draft of COTPATD Volume 1 available in dropbox here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1pheld32eropc4o/COTPATD%20Part%201.2.pdf?dl=0
Major changes from previous drafts:
- 'additional content' is now labeled with swirly lines, and doesn't have an ugly gray background.
- 'additional content' from the forum is no longer presented as screenshots (which were rather blurry in print), and is the actual text with a 'minimal' header (icon, name, date).
- Includes some notes and thoughts that people submitted. If you don't see your submission, don't worry, it will make it into Part 2. The Part 1 submissions are basically from 'old-school' Dinkers and are in context of their D-Mods. Part 2 will include things from 'new-school' Dinkers, plus those entries that were more directed towards Tim and the project as a whole in the 'epilogue'.
The only 'todo' item left is coordinating with Seth to see if he still wants to write the preface.
If you see anything odd, please post a message here.
I'm hoping to get a new final draft printed within a couple weeks, and it could be up for sale as early as May.
Thanks!
I have a near-final draft of COTPATD Volume 1 available in dropbox here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1pheld32eropc4o/COTPATD%20Part%201.2.pdf?dl=0
Major changes from previous drafts:
- 'additional content' is now labeled with swirly lines, and doesn't have an ugly gray background.
- 'additional content' from the forum is no longer presented as screenshots (which were rather blurry in print), and is the actual text with a 'minimal' header (icon, name, date).
- Includes some notes and thoughts that people submitted. If you don't see your submission, don't worry, it will make it into Part 2. The Part 1 submissions are basically from 'old-school' Dinkers and are in context of their D-Mods. Part 2 will include things from 'new-school' Dinkers, plus those entries that were more directed towards Tim and the project as a whole in the 'epilogue'.
The only 'todo' item left is coordinating with Seth to see if he still wants to write the preface.
If you see anything odd, please post a message here.
I'm hoping to get a new final draft printed within a couple weeks, and it could be up for sale as early as May.
Thanks!
This is awesome.
I gotta say, I for one really appreciate the time and effort you've spent compiling this COTPATD Book. It's turning out amazing.
I gotta say, I for one really appreciate the time and effort you've spent compiling this COTPATD Book. It's turning out amazing.
Read about 1/8th through so far, and gotta say really impressive work. The amount of information/screenshots etc. you've managed to compile is super impressive in itself, and the way it's added inbetween Tim's writings fleshes out and brings a whole new dimension to the entire COTPATD project. Especially on these first 50 pages I've read, since they not only deal with D-Mods, but basically the whole early history of Dink in general. Not to undermine Tim's huge efforts put into this at all, but gotta say yours is almost equally impressive, Redink.
Only odd thing I really saw was the smileys in the "forum posts". They look kinda off. Especially their left sides look like they're almost cut out. Other than that, I noticed a few spelling errors in Tim's parts and some of the forum posts, but I'm assuming you're keeping them like they are on purpose? So far haven't noticed any spelling errors on your edits, other than a missing right parenthesis at the top of page 22, when talking about Vedder's D-Mods.
Only odd thing I really saw was the smileys in the "forum posts". They look kinda off. Especially their left sides look like they're almost cut out. Other than that, I noticed a few spelling errors in Tim's parts and some of the forum posts, but I'm assuming you're keeping them like they are on purpose? So far haven't noticed any spelling errors on your edits, other than a missing right parenthesis at the top of page 22, when talking about Vedder's D-Mods.
I would like to fix any spelling errors in Tim's content, so if you can point those out I'd appreciate it.
And, yeah, I did leave the forum posts and reviews almost unchanged intentionally. Some of the things people posted are almost unintelligible, and fixing all of the spelling and grammar errors would rewrite them completely.
The smilies should look ok in print, but I won't know until I print out the next draft.
And, yeah, I did leave the forum posts and reviews almost unchanged intentionally. Some of the things people posted are almost unintelligible, and fixing all of the spelling and grammar errors would rewrite them completely.
The smilies should look ok in print, but I won't know until I print out the next draft.
Crack open the beer guys. We're partying tonight.
I too wish to express my gratitude for your effort on this tome.
Come to think if it, thanks again for all of your work on on the Dink Network in general!
Come to think if it, thanks again for all of your work on on the Dink Network in general!
I finished "proofreading" this and came across a few typos/mistakes here and there. I didn't start collecting them until Page 52, though, but I do know there were about 6-10 mistakes before that. So if you wanna fix those, know that they're there, but I don't feel like re-reading through those pages again to remember what they were. One thing, in general, I'd love to see added to the book would be to include each D-Mod's order number before their title. It's not a big deal, but would be a nice addition. Anyway, here's all the mistakes I found. I was quite tired when reading through several parts though, so some of them might actually just be Tim's superior English skills that I didn't catch onto.
Page 52: "If ever make another D-Mod" should be "If I ever make another D-Mod".
Page 63: "Dink has to back in time to prevent" should be "Dink has to go back in time to prevent".
Page 64: The SimonK/Gary Hertel interview included on the page is wrongly dated Oct 29th 2013, when it should be Oct 29th 2003.
Page 105: "They most success they had" should be "The most success they had".
Page 109: "The blackness progresses westward" should be "The blackness progresses eastward".
Page 160: "you could much worse" should be "you could do much worse".
Page 163: "On the one hand" should be "On one hand".
Page 177: SirCabbage's review is dated wrong. Supposed to be Mar 19th 2005, not 2013.
Page 200: "You can use the gold to purchase this an incredibly" should be "You can use the gold to purchase this incredibly".
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Page 270: I'm not sure what the hell happened here, but at one point it reads "Egypt"y). I don't know what the "y)" is doing there. Is it really supposed to be spelled like that because of the D-Mod, did Tim make a typo or was it an error caused when making the book. Either way, seems strange.
Page 299: The last bit of the interview with Scratcher still has the "A:" left in it, whereas it's removed everywhere else.
Page 302: "qutie simple" should be "quite simple".
Page 316: "Despite having no clue he is" should probably be "no clue who he is" or "no clue where he is". No idea what this sentence was intended to be, but it seems broken in context and is definitely missing a word inbetween.
Page 386: "Snarky dink" should be... erm, something else. It's funny, but maybe best to replace "dink" with a non forum-censory word.
Page 388: "Mean dink". See above. ^
Page 416: "Tim had spent almost 14 months, from August 17th,2013 to October 2nd,2014.". The sentence fails to mention what he had spent those 14 months on. While I'm fairly sure most people can guess it means the COTPATD project, perhaps best to include it in the sentence too.
Also, the mentioned dates in that sentence look kinda ugly without a space between the date and the year. Might just be me, but think it could use some cleaning up.
Anyway, here's all the mistakes I found. I was quite tired when reading through several parts though, so some of them might actually just be Tim's superior English skills that I didn't catch onto.Page 52: "If ever make another D-Mod" should be "If I ever make another D-Mod".
Page 63: "Dink has to back in time to prevent" should be "Dink has to go back in time to prevent".
Page 64: The SimonK/Gary Hertel interview included on the page is wrongly dated Oct 29th 2013, when it should be Oct 29th 2003.
Page 105: "They most success they had" should be "The most success they had".
Page 109: "The blackness progresses westward" should be "The blackness progresses eastward".
Page 160: "you could much worse" should be "you could do much worse".
Page 163: "On the one hand" should be "On one hand".
Page 177: SirCabbage's review is dated wrong. Supposed to be Mar 19th 2005, not 2013.
Page 200: "You can use the gold to purchase this an incredibly" should be "You can use the gold to purchase this incredibly".
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Page 270: I'm not sure what the hell happened here, but at one point it reads "Egypt"y). I don't know what the "y)" is doing there. Is it really supposed to be spelled like that because of the D-Mod, did Tim make a typo or was it an error caused when making the book. Either way, seems strange.
Page 299: The last bit of the interview with Scratcher still has the "A:" left in it, whereas it's removed everywhere else.
Page 302: "qutie simple" should be "quite simple".
Page 316: "Despite having no clue he is" should probably be "no clue who he is" or "no clue where he is". No idea what this sentence was intended to be, but it seems broken in context and is definitely missing a word inbetween.
Page 386: "Snarky dink" should be... erm, something else. It's funny, but maybe best to replace "dink" with a non forum-censory word.
Page 388: "Mean dink". See above. ^
Page 416: "Tim had spent almost 14 months, from August 17th,2013 to October 2nd,2014.". The sentence fails to mention what he had spent those 14 months on. While I'm fairly sure most people can guess it means the COTPATD project, perhaps best to include it in the sentence too.
Also, the mentioned dates in that sentence look kinda ugly without a space between the date and the year. Might just be me, but think it could use some cleaning up.
This is awesome! So cool to see you putting in so much work on this!
Very excited to have this in my bookshelf
Very excited to have this in my bookshelf
Excellent work Skully!
Page 163: "On the one hand" should be "On one hand".
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Those two are just different ways of saying it, quite common and nothing wrong with the English.
Otherwise, what zed sed
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Those two are just different ways of saying it, quite common and nothing wrong with the English.
Otherwise, what zed sed
Those two are just different ways of saying it, quite common and nothing wrong with the English.
I trust you when it comes to English, of course, but are you really sure "but it was one hell of a lot more competent than this" is a proper sentence? Dunno, seems wrong to me somehow. Never heard it used like that. If it was "but it was one hell of a lot more competent show than this", then it'd make some sense to me. Of course, it'd still be wrong since it'd make no sense to compare a game and a TV show in a sentence like that, which is why I'd have used "a" instead of "one". But... if you say it makes sense.
I trust you when it comes to English, of course, but are you really sure "but it was one hell of a lot more competent than this" is a proper sentence? Dunno, seems wrong to me somehow. Never heard it used like that. If it was "but it was one hell of a lot more competent show than this", then it'd make some sense to me. Of course, it'd still be wrong since it'd make no sense to compare a game and a TV show in a sentence like that, which is why I'd have used "a" instead of "one". But... if you say it makes sense.
Thank you so, so, so much, Skull.
Most of the items you pointed out have now been corrected in my latest draft, with some disclaimers below:
One thing, in general, I'd love to see added to the book would be to include each D-Mod's order number before their title.
Yeah; I waffled about this. In the end, I think Tim's effort to document every D-Mod with a specific ordered identifier like that was noble, but it was never correct: he missed a few D-Mods the first time around (and caught up with them in later years), he covered the Snyder D-Mods out of order, and it ignores the large number of lost D-Mods out there. Heck, I think the very first D-Mod, predating even Milli Vanilli, was 'The Porn DMOD'... though, now that i think of it, that can't be right. They weren't even called D-Mods before Milli Vanilli. My memory is a lie. It was one of the first, though.
Page 109: "The blackness progresses westward" should be "The blackness progresses eastward".
Ugh, that bummed me out. At one point, Tim confides that he has issues with left/right east/west, and it came through here. I think he would have preferred that it was fixed, so I fixed it.
Page 163: "On the one hand" should be "On one hand".
As Sparrow said, that's a common phrase, not fixed.
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Also, as Sparrow said, this is fairly common slang.
Page 270: I'm not sure what the hell happened here, but at one point it reads "Egypt"y). I don't know what the "y)" is doing there. Is it really supposed to be spelled like that because of the D-Mod, did Tim make a typo or was it an error caused when making the book. Either way, seems strange.
In Tim's original post, and in his news post, he said: "Egypt" (okay). So, somehow I corrupted it and lost the (oka. Grr.
Most of the items you pointed out have now been corrected in my latest draft, with some disclaimers below:
One thing, in general, I'd love to see added to the book would be to include each D-Mod's order number before their title.
Yeah; I waffled about this. In the end, I think Tim's effort to document every D-Mod with a specific ordered identifier like that was noble, but it was never correct: he missed a few D-Mods the first time around (and caught up with them in later years), he covered the Snyder D-Mods out of order, and it ignores the large number of lost D-Mods out there. Heck, I think the very first D-Mod, predating even Milli Vanilli, was 'The Porn DMOD'... though, now that i think of it, that can't be right. They weren't even called D-Mods before Milli Vanilli. My memory is a lie. It was one of the first, though.
Page 109: "The blackness progresses westward" should be "The blackness progresses eastward".
Ugh, that bummed me out. At one point, Tim confides that he has issues with left/right east/west, and it came through here. I think he would have preferred that it was fixed, so I fixed it.
Page 163: "On the one hand" should be "On one hand".
As Sparrow said, that's a common phrase, not fixed.
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Also, as Sparrow said, this is fairly common slang.
Page 270: I'm not sure what the hell happened here, but at one point it reads "Egypt"y). I don't know what the "y)" is doing there. Is it really supposed to be spelled like that because of the D-Mod, did Tim make a typo or was it an error caused when making the book. Either way, seems strange.
In Tim's original post, and in his news post, he said: "Egypt" (okay). So, somehow I corrupted it and lost the (oka. Grr.
Page 266: I'm pretty sure "but it was one hell of a lot" should be "but it was a hell of a lot", though I'm not sure in this context.
Also, as Sparrow said, this is fairly common slang.
I agreed that it was a common phrase at first, but after Skull gave context I might have to say that I think "a hell of" is the right choice.
Based on this: "but it was one hell of a lot more competent than this,", he was comparing the two, whereas "one hell of a something" usually refers to the quality of a singular object. But I digress, because I didn't come here to debate the grammar choices made.
This is wonderful work, and I can't wait to hold a copy in my hands. I really appreciate everything you're doing.
Also, as Sparrow said, this is fairly common slang.
I agreed that it was a common phrase at first, but after Skull gave context I might have to say that I think "a hell of" is the right choice.
Based on this: "but it was one hell of a lot more competent than this,", he was comparing the two, whereas "one hell of a something" usually refers to the quality of a singular object. But I digress, because I didn't come here to debate the grammar choices made.
This is wonderful work, and I can't wait to hold a copy in my hands. I really appreciate everything you're doing.
