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I hate my life (Closed)

November 17th 2016, 05:33 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Ooooor maybe you came to a forum of an obscure game where you barely know anyone because you feel like you have people to talk to here

Anyways. I know how you feel. However make sure you don't confuse dissatisfaction with boredom. Maybe you're bored with your life, not depressed.

I think we can help you better if you tell us a little about yourself and your life. How old are you? Where do you live (city)? What's your job? Maybe you are dissatisfied because you hate your job. Or the city you live in.
November 17th 2016, 07:32 AM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
Coming here to talk to people? You may be right. There aren't too many people for me to talk to.
I rarely talk to anyone besides my family. And basically, nearly every connection I had - for example, with my former classmates - just ended.
I'm quite sure it's not just boredom. Boredom was what I feelt when discovering that I could no longer enjoy my de facto hobby and daily activity:
playing video games. That was the reason I asked for suggestions here, to find something I could enjoy.
But this time it's different. I feel that the state of my life and the entire world is not good. And nothing could make it better.

What could I tell about me?
About my age, I'm at an age where I'm offically recognised as an adult.
But I don't really feel to be an adult. Let alone mature.
Well, I don't live in a city. It's a smaller village. It's not that good to live here, but I think it could be worse.
I don't have a job. Currently I'm in school. Actually not far from finishing it. The funny thing is, I hate both learning at school and work.
November 17th 2016, 07:52 AM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
cigarette bonca 
Start a physical hobby, like martial arts. Or just go running or swimming, although personally at least, I have a hard time keeping that up without any ulterior motive. (Some people say they enjoy running, but I've never felt that way. I can tolerate it at best.) BJJ is great, because it's both physically and mentally challenging. (And also effective in real fights, not just in a sporting context.) I've noticed that physical activity does a lot more to improve your mood than anything mental. Especially if you're in poor shape, improving your body has a huge effect on improving your mood.
November 17th 2016, 08:09 AM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
Physical activities never made me feel better. I always end up getting tired and sometimes in an even worse mood than before.
November 17th 2016, 08:36 AM
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leprochaun
Peasant Male Japan xbox steam bloop
Responsible for making things not look like ass 
I've noticed that physical activity does a lot more to improve your mood than anything mental.

I go for a walk like every day if it's not raining. It makes me feel pretty good.

A physical hobby would be great to find, but really any hobby would be good at this point. Writing's never a bad choice for a hobby. Drawing/painting is a great choice too. Hell, even making a dmod isn't a bad hobby. These sort of things require you to use your brain to be creative and no matter how bad you might feel if you stick with it you'll eventually start enjoying it.
November 17th 2016, 08:41 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
Come to the IRC!
November 17th 2016, 10:55 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
I used to feel kind of depressed too. I started listening to some uplifting music to get me in the mood to be happy and inspired again Maybe all you need is music. Here's a song to start
November 17th 2016, 09:39 PM
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redink1
King Male United States xbox steam bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
I struggled with kinda severe depression and and anxiety until just a few years ago, and even now sometimes things aren't that great. I'm not sure what your situation is (whether you live in the US and are on your parent's insurance, or if you're in a wonderland where medical expenses are paid for by magic fairies, or something else), but it might be worth going to see a therapist.

When I was in college, I didn't really make any friends in the real world (online was different, given this here web site). Throughout all four years, I made a grand total of 2 friends (who I met in my third year), and I'm only facebook friends with one of them now. In my third year, I realized that this wasn't just going to change by itself, and I should do something about it. I went to the student services center, and somehow (I honestly don't remember how it happened) I started going to some individual therapy sessions, and even some group therapy sessions. To be quite honest, I don't feel like I got much out of these; I think throwing a kid with social anxiety into group therapy sessions was one of the psychology departments fun experiments, on par with sending someone afraid of clowns to Clownapalooza 2003.

But, after college, I got a job, and things weren't much better. After working for three years (I'm just recognizing the pattern now, hmm), I tried again, calling the 'Behavioral Health / Employee Assistance Program' phone number on my health insurance card, and they set me up with a local therapist. The therapist recommended a psychologist, and I started taking some anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medication as I continued seeing the therapist. After a couple years of medication and therapy, I changed somehow. It wasn't like the therapist unlocked any huge revelations ("Oh, I'm afraid of clowns because my mom is literally a clown and I just noticed that"), but it helped challenge most of my self-loathing and depressive thoughts, and helped redirect me to be more positive, usually.

After that anti-revelation, I stopped taking the drugs, and stopped going to therapy, and have been mostly happy about life. I still don't like most people, but I'm ok with that instead of stressing about it.

So, if you have the opportunity, I'd recommend trying to see a therapist and/or psychologist. It probably won't help right away, but over time it might.
November 17th 2016, 10:05 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
definitely do not get on anti-depressants, though. they are harmful. as. duck.
November 18th 2016, 03:04 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
I still don't like most people

I feel ya

Anyways, back to the subject. I think it'd be best if you combine a little bit of medical help with your own will to change your life. You need to think differently upon certain aspects of life. I don't really have too many friends, and that is because I don't really like many people And I'm happy with that. Some people are more introverted and some are more extroverted, and you don't need to feel bad about it.

I feel that the state of my life and the entire world is not good. And nothing could make it better.

I'm going to tell you something that my parents and brother (who is and aspiring psychologist) told me: Things change for the better if your attitude changes for the better. Look more positively on things and be calmer when you have a problem. Don't take things in life so seriously. If you live your whole life in worries, then it's kind of a wasted life.

The funny thing is, I hate both learning at school and work.

Neither do I. School is full of shitty classmates and close-minded teachers. As for work,I wanna have a future where I'm my own boss. So you ain't alone
November 18th 2016, 07:04 AM
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JODY3MOONS
Ghost
 
"I STILL HATE MOST PEOPLE"

THiS VERY MiNDSET iS THE MiNDFRAME THAT KEEPS PEOPLE iN A CRIPPLiNG STATE OF SELF LOATHiNG AND DEPRESSiON.. YES ONCE YOU'VE SEEN THROUGH REALiTY OF THE EARTH AND REALiZED iT'S SiMiLAR TO THAT OF WHiCH iS A SLOW TORTURE CHAMBER WHERE WE ARE ESSENTiALLY LEFT HERE TO DiE AND WATCH EViL PEOPLE USE MAN MADE CONCEPTS LiKE MONEY AND POWER TO CONTROL AND DiVIDE US FELLOW MAN AND iNFLICT HURT AND HATE UPON EACH OTHER DEPRESSiON CAN OFTEN JUST BE A COPiNG MECHANiSM BECAUSE WE'VE GiVEN UP HOPE AND THiS CAN LEAD TO BEiNG HATEFUL AND SOMETiMES COMiNG ONLiNE AND HURTiNG OTHERS ViA COMPUTER iNTERNET CONNECTiON, BUT THiS iS ALL JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY HURT INSiDE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT OUT THERE iN THE WORLD DOiNG WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU EiTHER FEEL NOT WORTHY OR HAVE GiVEN UP HOPE ON THE HUMAN RACE BUT YOU MUST FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS AND DO WHAT YOU WANT YOU MUST LEARN THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHANCE iN THiS COLD WORLD MAKE THE MOST OF iT. SET A GOAL AND MAKE iT HAPPEN BY ALL COSTS. AT THE END OF THE DAY AND THE END OF YOUR LiFE NOBODY GIVES A F UCK ABOUT YOU SO YOU MAY ASWELL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT! iGNORE HATERS AND NEVER EVER EVER HATE ON ANY OTHER HUMAN WHO iS JUST TRYiNG TO MAKE SENSE OF THiS EMOTiONALLY CONFUSiNG WORLD AS ARE YOU.

YOU'RE WORTH WiLD
November 18th 2016, 09:36 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
thanks
November 18th 2016, 01:01 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
are you shia labeouf, jody?

that brave heart guy? both at once?
November 18th 2016, 02:16 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Wow, a serious thread about depression turned to shit real fast. I knew some people here are childish, but this is just stupid and sad.
November 18th 2016, 03:15 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
@redink1
Well, I've been attending to a psychologist for years. But this doesn't help me. I feel I ran out of options.

@Bluedy
I don't know what genre that music is, but not really my taste.
As for me thinking more positively about life - sorry, but you have a better chance to become the President of the USA than to change my attitude.
I was always quite pessimistic and that didn't change over time.
I'm not surprised by the fact that the thread got derailed, in this place pretty much any thread could go completely off topic.

@JODY3MOONS
I tried to understand this post. And guess what? It didn't make too much sense to me.
November 18th 2016, 05:11 PM
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Striker
Noble United States steam
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Sounds a bit like the stuff I went through at the end of school. I used to be a deeply pessimistic person (I still am somewhat), and was very, very unsatisfied with my life. That whole "think positive" BS just bounced right off me, so I took the opposite tack and figured out how to make it work for me rather than keep me completely paralyzed. If life is shit and it doesn't matter, you might as well throw yourself at the things you want to experience. Accept that you're going to die, and maybe even soon or horribly, so you might as well go do whatever it is you want to do until that time, no matter how ridiculous.

To get me out of the space of sedentary inertia I was in, I had to make bold, seemingly desperate moves that I think most sane people would eschew, but I'm 100% convinced that my life would still be garbage if I hadn't. It also helped as a buffer against my formerly shit self-esteem as there's nothing better to counter negative self-messages than having real, tangible examples of success.

It's not a path or mindset I would recommend to most people, but I was ducked up enough that it really was my best option.
November 18th 2016, 07:30 PM
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JODYBURLYBOY
Ghost
 
iF MY POST WENT ABOVE YOUR HEAD LiKE A SHOWER NOZZLE i WOULD SUGGEST TAKiNG THE TiME TO GO BACK AND TRY COMPREHEND WHAT i AM SAYiNG

iF YOU ARE LOOKiNG FOR SOME SORT OF SECRET CURE TO CONQUER HOW YOU ARE FEELiNG YOU WiLL UNFORTUNATLEY WASTE YOUR LiFE AWAY SEARCHiNG FOR THE UN-SEARCHABLE THE CURE LiES WiTHiN YOUR MiND BODY AND SOUL. HELP WiLL NOT MAGiCALLY APPEAR LiKE A PiKACHU iN THE FOREST PLAiNS CHANNEL DEEP iNTO YOUR HEART AND WRiTE A LiST OF YOUR DREAMS AND GOALS LiKE MAYBE GETTiNG MULTiPLE FEMALES iN YOUR LiFE OR GROSSiNG 1 MiLLiON ANNUALLY OR PUTTiNG ON A BURLY AMOUNT OF MUSCLE MASS OR MAYBE CREATiNG ART AND GETTiNG iT OUT iNTO THE WORLD TO BE CONSUMED AND ENJOYED BY OTHERS TO MAKE THEiR LiFES BETTER THE SKY iS THE LiMiT ONCE YOU ARE BUSY WORKiNG ON MAKiNG THESE DREAMS OF YOURS A REALiTY YOU WiLL BE TOO OCCUPiED TO DWELL ON NEGATiVE THOUGHTS AND THE LiBERATiNG FREEDOM OF DOiNG WHAT YOU LOVE WiLL CANCEL OUT THE DEPRESSiON AND MAKE YOU REMEMBER THAT LiFE iS ACTUALLY GREAT.
November 19th 2016, 10:14 AM
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castman
Peasant Male Brazil
Some day I'll finish my mod... Some day... 
"I'm completely dissatisfied with my life and the entire world."

The answer to the following question is probably 'yes', but, have you tried to find what really makes ou dissatisfied with your life? Because I kinda get the feeling that your dissatisfaction isn't entirely your own.

-There aren't too many people for me to talk to. I rarely talk to anyone besides my family.
What makes you think it is a bad thing that you don't have a hundred friends to talk to? Or that talking mostly to your family is bad? Even if you don't talk much to them either.

-I'm at an age where I'm offically recognised as an adult. But I don't really feel to be an adult.
What makes you think you are not an acceptable example of an adult? And what makes you think you are supposed to be one?

There's something of a pattern there about you being something and feeling like you shouldn't. I believe you should, before anything else, ask yourself if you want to be who you are right now, or not. Are you sincerely dissatisfied with your life or is the pressure and influence from others around you making you feel like you should be dissatisfied?

My recommendation for something to do, is to venture a bit into philosophy and history (*groan*).
For real though, history might help you find that times used to be both better and worse at the same time. It gives you a perspective that, most of times, there is no 'good' or 'bad', just different.
With philosophy, you might find that you are not alone in your struggles. Sure you have your own particular differences from everyone else's, but you will find that it is ok to feel down, without hope, purpose or meaning. Some have it easier, some don't and, it sure is unfair, but you have to find your way through it.
I find this YouTube channel really helpful on these matters.

I hope it doesn't sound like I'm trying to diminish what you are feeling, because I am not. I've just recently had what I believe to have been the most important turning point in my life and those thoughts above are some things I learned while going through it, and I hope they can be useful in this moment you are going through.
November 19th 2016, 10:59 AM
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symian
Peasant Male United States
 
I completely understand what you are going through. I've experienced this and more during various times in my life. You are evidently much younger than I am so I can't really tell you or advise you how to deal with being young in these modern times. It was very different when I was younger. Not better or worse, just different.

I agree with Redink1 on his suggestions.

You said you've been seeing a psychologist for years. I do know that if one doctor (of any type) isn't working for you, you have to hunt around until you find one that does. It's frustrating, but if you do find the one that works you for you he/she can help change your life. There are also some short-term medications that can help your brain make permanent changes by giving you a mental experience beyond what you are used to. I am not recommending anything, but for me the 2 medications that helped me see things differently were Citalopram and Trazodone together. I took them for a year and then stopped. They made a marked change in my emotional state and also my mental outlook. I never took Prozac or anything like that and never wanted to.

That being said, I am not fixed and perfect. I am comfortable now with who I am and where I am. I understand now that I will never change suddenly into the person I always thought I'd be or wanted to be. I am what I am. All I can do is make small changes and move myself as far as I can in whatever direction I need to go, even if at first it is painful to do so. The "normal" I always wanted to get to (social and so on), I will never get to. It is simply not my nature - it is just my desire.

For me, not being happy or sad is fine. People who are happy or sad all the time usually end up in a mental institution. Being in the middle, neither happy or sad, just fluctuating between the two, is fine with me. It works for me. Hopefully you can find a way to live your life and not be too much one way or the other.

I do know that boredom is our brain telling us that we need to do something else - even if that something else is not what we want to do.

November 29th 2016, 09:23 PM
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Me too.
But two things have made me begin to try to overcome that hatred.
One, talk things over with my family; before, I barely talked even with them, who are the closest people to me and my context, and that can help me in the best way possible to find solutions to problems.
Two, finding a source of motivation, which for me is a person I met and that I admire.

These two things ignited a process of thought that let me review what I have done right and what I have done wrong in a good part of my life, what I actually like and what I actually dislike, with little to no bindings to what others think or what pressure they might put on my decisions.

Knowing this information, I have been trying for a while to repair damage I did and deal with present problems, one step at a time.
November 30th 2016, 04:57 AM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
@castman
What makes you think it is a bad thing that you don't have a hundred friends to talk to?
The bad thing is - I have no friends to talk to. I feel lonely.

Or that talking mostly to your family is bad?
Family is not enough for me. In fact, I feel I don't even have a proper family.
Actually, EVERY single connection I had with people outside my family is broken.
If people don't talk to me, nothing will make me start a conversation. So, in short: I'm an one-way street.
Can you imagine a life where you can only keep any connection to any person if they MUST be the ones who initiate every single time and be the ones forever?
And these persons would need to always to do that and never giving up? And you being the person who absolutely refuses to change?

What makes you think you are not an acceptable example of an adult?
My childlike behaviour and dependence on others, just to name a few.

And what makes you think you are supposed to be one?
Laws. Not much else.

My recommendation for something to do, is to venture a bit into philosophy and history
I'm not interested in philosophy, and in history all I can see is a long way downward, the way that lead to one of my reasons for complete dissatisfaction.

you will find that it is ok to feel down, without hope, purpose or meaning
Sorry, but I could never accept my life to be like this. I could never accept a life without meaning or living one so... ordinary like the ones basically everyone else around me lives.

@dinkmega
Unfortunently, no person I talked to (inside or outside my family) could find a soloution for any of my problems.
And a source of motivation? Where and what? I have no motivation for anything whatsoever. And I never found anything or anyone who could motivate me.
November 30th 2016, 06:09 PM
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Hmm.
Well, my family didn't actually find the solution to the problems I am/was having, they helped me find it, and together we have come to put the solutions to action, one step at a time. I can't do everything, but yes, I have to put most of the effort.

My source of motivation, it's probably funny. I don't know it physically, I met this person playing an online teamwork-based videogame. I have been playing and liking videogames for at least 15 years, and I don't find myself stopping in this hobby anytime soon.
In summary, I found it doing stuff that I like to do.

This is what helped me anyway, might not work for everyone.
December 1st 2016, 03:49 AM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
Funny, I'm quite the opposite. I want someone to find a soloution for me. Not helping me find my own soloution.
And... well... you guys may find it completly illogical - I hate putting effort into anything. Really.
I also don't play any online game. So that's out of question.
December 1st 2016, 03:58 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Welp, we can't really do anything if you can't start doing something yourself

Hey! Maybe that's the problem. The fact that you hate putting effort into anything is the problem!
If that doesn't help you in any way, then I dunno what will.
December 1st 2016, 04:02 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
name something you like, roaming ghoster.
December 1st 2016, 06:06 AM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
@Bluedy
This is the reason I can't get out from the situation I'm in. If anything dephends on me doing something, it's doomed to fail.

@Skurn
I dunno... I used to like video games, but they can't make me happy anymore. Collecting books and video games - but now I can't find enjoyment in those either. Eating, I guess... and drinking tea. Not too many things to like.
December 1st 2016, 06:33 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Maybe you should get a girlfriend(if you dont already have one)
December 1st 2016, 08:11 AM
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castman
Peasant Male Brazil
Some day I'll finish my mod... Some day... 
Welp, I hope you can see that one path to live an ordinary life ("like the ones basically everyone else around me lives") is not putting effort into anything.

If you don't put any effort on your job, education or into your business idea, you'll live your whole life earning an ordinary minimum wage. And so on..

If anything dephends on me doing something, it's doomed to fail.

Then, basically, we can post all the things that motivates us here but, since it will always require effort on your part to at least try any of them, nothing is going to help.
Honestly, if you are hoping to feel some magical 'click' with something someone may post here, I'm sorry, it is just not how it works.

I hate putting effort into anything. Really.

I went through my school years as the 'natural born genius' who, without putting any effort into studying, would still get the highest grades in class. Everyone around me was certain that I would have a brilliant career, but it finally came the time where I had to make an effort to get something - a job, and I simply couldn't progress from there.
I believe the years I went through school (being rewarded with no effort) made me used to it. I still have problems with effort and working towards long term goals, but finding the issue and its cause was the start of the process to put my life back together.

I find it interesting that you said "I hate putting effort into anything", instead of "I can't put effort into anything".
So, why do you hate it?
December 1st 2016, 10:30 AM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
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I went through my school years as the 'natural born genius' who, without putting any effort into studying, would still get the highest grades in class.

I think this is a very common occurrence in basic education, even if one is not particularly gifted, but just slightly above average. The difficulty level is so low that any moderately intelligent person will feel like a champion. It's also cognitive bias, because in their mind people tend to put a lot of weight on successes, and dwell very little on occasions where they didn't do particularly well. Often you don't even realize it when you don't do well. What's that saying, 'it's the smart man who knows they don't know anything'? At least for me, it wasn't until mid-to-late 20s that I suddenly realized with a start that 'Welp, maybe I'm not actually that much smarter than everyone else.'

I'm not sure what got into me that time. Pretty embarrassing. I mean, c'mon.
December 1st 2016, 08:21 PM
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castman
Peasant Male Brazil
Some day I'll finish my mod... Some day... 
@scratcher

So true. I remember being happy about an 'above average' grade I got in a national exam, somehow ignoring how mediocre it was when compared to the top placed students.

The biases we build and carry inside our heads can be very powerful, often making us overstate how good or bad is the situation we are in, individually and globally.
December 2nd 2016, 11:24 AM
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DinkGarnet
Peasant Female United States
I'm not as think as you drunk I am 
I feel for you. I've been badly depressed too and thankfully I am not now. So please hang in there and try to get through it. It's certainly difficult, but it is doable. Do not give up on yourself.

You've probably heard some well-meaning but inaccurate comments that it's all in your head. It's NOT. Depression can have many causes, physical or psychological. It is also partly hereditary but that is certainly not the only reason for having it. A doctor can help you figure out what is causing yours and how best to treat it. So please do consider getting professional help. God bless you and I hope you have a great day.
December 6th 2016, 09:45 AM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Stupid Goth.
December 6th 2016, 01:26 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
wow. you come back, post a war-glorifying song, and call someone a stupid goth for having problems.

you really have gone too far now. why don't you go have some experiences before you decide to participate in a thread like this ever again.
December 6th 2016, 01:36 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
I wanted to say something but I didn't know if he was joking or not(even though it would have been kind of a shitty joke). Thank you Skurn for being so upfront about it
December 6th 2016, 03:13 PM
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JustaGhost
Ghost
 
Stupid Goth
Ooops... wasn't that nice....
I hope my "welcome back" on the other thread wasn't too early...

Well, maybe Bathomet thinks that ,because this whole forum is for a game, everything on this forum should have taken funny.
I mean, on a forum like this it's good to have also fun, just see at "lets Batttlllleeeeeee!!" or "if this is the answer, what is the question?".
I think that's why the possibility to make off-topics is there.

BUT

Some things should be taken seriously, because they ARE SERIOUS.
Just like this thread.
Off-topics are also there for this kinda thread, where people talk about their problems in reallife.
And those threats should be taken seriously.
I mean, have fun at threads described at the top, but be serious at threads described at the bottom.
December 6th 2016, 03:20 PM
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JustaGhost
Ghost
 
Sadly, I am not a person like shevek, who can talk about this easily.
In threads like this I really don't know what to say and I fear saying something wrong or really stupid ,which doesn't solve the problem.

Even for the comment above I needed 20 minutes....

So ForumLurker I can just wish you to not give up your life, even when the time's hard for you.
December 14th 2016, 04:42 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Get a life goth.
December 14th 2016, 04:47 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
you really need to not post in a thread like this if you're going to be a dick hole.

(and learn what goths are)
December 14th 2016, 04:54 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Alright. Something needs to be done about Baphomet. Clearly he thinks this forum is a site he can shit on without consequences.
December 14th 2016, 04:59 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
he was like this in IRC, too. just...not to this degree. this is shit i'd expect from scummy youtube comments.
December 14th 2016, 05:08 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Whatever, I'm not commenting any further on this matter. If you guys are ok with someone posting german lyrics as threads, one of which is a war glorifying song, and also calling a depressed person a "stupid goth" (even though there are smarter goths in this world than Baphomet), then suit yourself. Sorry if I seem like an asshole, but I've dealt with enough idiots in my life to know when someone is toxic to a community.
December 14th 2016, 05:11 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
i never said i was ok with it. i called him out on the war song and this.
December 14th 2016, 05:16 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
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December 14th 2016, 05:21 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
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December 14th 2016, 05:33 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
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December 14th 2016, 08:34 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
And what pray tell, are you actually gaining from being this way Baphomet?

Do you hate yourself? Is that why you act the way you do?

As for roamingGuest,

I love you <3

Everyone here does

Even Baphomet.
He just can't show it.
December 15th 2016, 02:28 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
And what pray tell, are you actually gaining from being this way Baphomet?

Do you hate yourself? Is that why you act the way you do?


OR maybe he's a troll
December 15th 2016, 03:20 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
can't really tell these days.
December 16th 2016, 04:59 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
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December 18th 2016, 07:42 AM
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Blahh
Ghost
 
There are times when I feel the same, and I understand the "not wanting to put an effort" part. I'm just a lurker here, but going through this thread, reading the replies, it helped.

To the troll: this just shows your immaturity. I don't know how old you are, but it doesn't seem like you have better things to do with your life.
January 3rd, 04:29 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Anyone pissed of at me yet???

Here's what I think, Roamingguest.

YOU ARE PATHETIC! LIFE NEEDS TO BE ENJOYED! IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH YOUR WHOLE LIFE! AND THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD THEN GO OUT AND HAVE SOME FUN!

SERIOUSLY! IT PISSES GOD OFF WHEN HE SEES HIS GREATEST CREATION HATE ITSELF! WELL LISTEN HERE BUDDY, LIVING IS A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, HATING YOUR LIFE IS STUPID! IT CAN LEAD TO SUICIDE! I HAD A COUSIN THAT I LOVED VERY MUCH, HE GOT THIS WAY AND KILLED HIMSELF LAST YEAR! NOW I HATE MY COUSIN FOR DOING THAT.

DON'T HATE YOUR LIFE! IF YO DO, FIND A WAY TO LIGHTEN IT UP!
THROW A PARTY! GO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU NEVER HAVE DONE BEFORE! LEARN TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT!
+Hating yourself, is just plain stupid. People are going to think there is something wrong with you.
(Looks around at the DN Members)
Well, maybe not these people.

Sheesh....

...
I was raving wasn't I?
January 3rd, 04:54 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Anyone pissed of at me yet???

yep

Here's what I think, Roamingguest.

YOU ARE PATHETIC! LIFE NEEDS TO BE ENJOYED! IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH YOUR WHOLE LIFE! AND THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD THEN GO OUT AND HAVE SOME FUN!

SERIOUSLY! IT PISSES GOD OFF WHEN HE SEES HIS GREATEST CREATION HATE ITSELF! WELL LISTEN HERE BUDDY, LIVING IS A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, HATING YOUR LIFE IS STUPID! IT CAN LEAD TO SUICIDE! I HAD A COUSIN THAT I LOVED VERY MUCH, HE GOT THIS WAY AND KILLED HIMSELF LAST YEAR! NOW I HATE MY COUSIN FOR DOING THAT.

DON'T HATE YOUR LIFE! IF YO DO, FIND A WAY TO LIGHTEN IT UP!
THROW A PARTY! GO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU NEVER HAVE DONE BEFORE! LEARN TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT!


It ain't that easy. I once tried screaming in a depressed person's face to lighten up too, and it doesn't work that way.

+Hating yourself, is just plain stupid. People are going to think there is something wrong with you.
(Looks around at the DN Members)
Well, maybe not these people.


No, only close-minded idiots will think something is wrong with him. Open minded people will try to help him, or at least try to understand him.

January 3rd, 05:34 PM
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Striker
Noble United States steam
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Sounds like someone needs a hug

Everyone! Group hug Baphomet!
January 3rd, 07:57 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
Anyone pissed of at me yet???

Here's what I think, Roamingguest.

YOU ARE PATHETIC! LIFE NEEDS TO BE ENJOYED! IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH YOUR WHOLE LIFE! AND THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD THEN GO OUT AND HAVE SOME FUN!

SERIOUSLY! IT PISSES GOD OFF WHEN HE SEES HIS GREATEST CREATION HATE ITSELF! WELL LISTEN HERE BUDDY, LIVING IS A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, HATING YOUR LIFE IS STUPID! IT CAN LEAD TO SUICIDE! I HAD A COUSIN THAT I LOVED VERY MUCH, HE GOT THIS WAY AND KILLED HIMSELF LAST YEAR! NOW I HATE MY COUSIN FOR DOING THAT.

DON'T HATE YOUR LIFE! IF YO DO, FIND A WAY TO LIGHTEN IT UP!
THROW A PARTY! GO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU NEVER HAVE DONE BEFORE! LEARN TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT!
+Hating yourself, is just plain stupid. People are going to think there is something wrong with you.
(Looks around at the DN Members)
Well, maybe not these people.

Sheesh....

...
I was raving wasn't I?


dude, are you serious? do you have any clue how depression works? you don't just say "WELL, I'M GONNA GO ICE SKATE! WOOOO!" you say "eh, i don't really feel like it. i want to do something...but i don't know what."

it's like those dumb posts saying to choose happiness. you literally don't choose that. that implies people choose to feel horrible and really, why would you?
January 4th, 04:41 AM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
I have been summoned. Striker has spoken the sacred incantation.
January 4th, 08:17 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
I was raving wasn't I?

Yeah, you were, and looking like an absolute ass whilst doing so.
Depression is not as clear cut as 'go do something fun' or 'stop being sad'. There is no singular reason for depression to happen, sometimes it's a chemical imbalance in the brain, sometimes it's because everything a person does doesn't pan out, on a consistent basis, seemingly without fail. A lot of the time, it's something they can't control, not without a lot of outside help.
When it comes to helping a person who is dealing with depression, getting mad at them will not help, it will only worsen the depression and, in the case of people having suicidal thoughts, will actually make them more likely to commit suicide. Empathizing and being supportive and understanding when it's the right time to speak is essential.
Living is not a privilege, nor is it a right. We all live because we have to, to experience the world, to make it all worthwhile. Life, ultimately, is meaningless. It has no meaning, no answer, because there is no question, nothing to bring meaning into it. And that, in itself, is a beautiful thing, because life is meaningless, we can instill meaning into it. Whether that meaning is created through being kind to all life, or devoting your life to a deity, or even just simply living life as you see fit, it ultimately does not matter, so long as you live so there is meaning, if not for others, then for yourself.

@RoamingGuest, I can empathize with you to a certain extent. I have no reached the point of despair so great that anything seems like the better option. Life is tough, and it will always be difficult to life life in a way that makes us happy or even merely satisfied. I'm stuck living with my parents after an entire year of failure living with my cousin. I made some pretty bad decisions, some of which left me in such a state that if I had considered death a better alternative, I might have given it thought.
I want you to try an experiment for me, I want you to write down everything that makes you smile. I want you to write down everything that warms your heart, puts a spring in your step, anything that holds special meaning for you. I'm not saying sit down and think about things that make you happy, I want you to carry something, a phone, a notebook, hell, even your arm and a sharpie, any time you come across something that makes everything seem even the merest bit better, I want you to write it down.
Every week, I want you to read what you wrote, I want you to count how many things make life just that little bit more bearable. It will not be the end-all-be-all cure for anything, but it will make life have that much more meaning.
I hope this helps, especially more so than Baphomet's rather confusing insane troll logic.
January 6th, 03:41 AM
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JustaGhost
Ghost
 
Living is not a privilege, nor is it a right. We all live because we have to

I don't think so. Because When you think 'I MUST live, I MUST live' Is life really then something you can enjoy?
I would see life as a present. Something you could do everything with (I wrote 'could', because you shouldn't do EVERYTHING with it. You should decide what's right or wrong). You also have the decision to throw it away. But the question is:
Is live really worth it throwing it away?
Think of it.
I like the idea of the list you wrote at the end. Because at the end, even if you feel depressed, it's a long list. And if the list isn't long, you haven't written everything down. That's for sure.
January 6th, 07:48 AM
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JODYBURLYBOY
Ghost
 
TRY MAKE AN EFFORT BEFORE iTS TOO LATE AND YOU FALL BEHiND. YOU ASKED FOR HELP AND REFUSE TO TAKE iT ON. WHAT YOU THiNK YOUR BRAiN KNOWS THE OUTCOME FOR SOMETHiNG YOU'VE NEVER TRiED. PROVE YOUR HATERS AND iNNER DEMONS WRONG CONQUER THE WORLD
January 6th, 08:19 AM
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Toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
TRY MAKE AN EFFORT BEFORE iTS TOO LATE AND YOU FALL BEHiND

This is true. That old saying "its is never too late" is a lie in most cases. There are some, but very rare exceptions.

And if you think its hard now, it will get even harder. One day, you'll be forced to do something you absolutely hate ( earning for living ), and things pretty much spiral down from that point. Especially if you're not, and from what I can see, you're not an enthusiastic person.
I also find hard these days to be part of something, because I hate most people I'm surrounded with, and these new "western" ways of getting a job starts really to get on my nerve.
"Hello", say the smiling blond behind the counter. "Are you an enthusiastic person, a great team player who can work alone in stressful environment overtime for miserable salary that you might not get at the end of the month? Also, what do you think about our company? Would you shed your blood for it, and cut your own genitals if we ask you to do so?".
For @#$% sake, just ask me like a normal person where I worked before, and tell me if I got the job or not.

Now you might think, that I drove away from your subject, but in the end, it's the fate that waits for you, if you don't do something.
January 6th, 09:03 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
I feel like I must clarify. We have to because we were born. In choosing the way we live, we choose the course our lives take. Through the interactions with others, we are impacted both positively and negatively, how we deal with the repercussions of our own actions, as well as the actions of others, also shapes how our futures are.
I believe, personally, that life is not simply contained within a single existence, but is stretched between many lives. Just as the things we do in our past can haunt us, the things we do in past lives also impact us, especially in ways we don't foresee happening.
January 8th, 11:47 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
I've just noticed that OP hasn't posted since the beginning of last month. I hope he's okay.
January 9th, 12:52 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
it's probably because baphomet's a completely insensitive troll.
January 10th, 12:46 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Sounds like someone needs a hug

Everyone! Group hug Baphomet!


I'll bight your arms off!
January 10th, 03:18 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
What if I like the biting? Or rather bighting, as you put it. Whatever that is.
January 11th, 05:30 PM
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Striker
Noble United States steam
Daniel, there are clowns. 
I think it has something to do with rope.
January 11th, 06:30 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Kinky+
January 18th, 04:27 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Or rather bighting, as you put it. Whatever that is.

Oh shit.
I don't type like that on my other forum. How did that happen?

I was on my ipod when I punched that message in.
January 18th, 05:25 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Bight me.
January 27th, 02:39 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Essen sie meine shorts!
January 27th, 08:15 PM
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Striker
Noble United States steam
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Well, at least your request is being phrased in a respectful way.
January 30th, 11:24 PM
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JustaGhost
Ghost
 
If you write something in a respectful way, the "Sie" has to be written with a capital S.
Like this:
Essen Sie meine Shorts.

By the way: I think this thread has been somehow destroyed and I'm not sure if Roaming guest is still reading this.
It is sad what can happen to a thread about Roaming Guest needing help.
January 31st, 04:10 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
VICTORY!
January 31st, 04:55 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
i would have banned you so quick. you're lucky i don't have the red star.
January 31st, 07:07 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
The irony is ducking palpable.
January 31st, 07:45 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
but like, i didn't troll and flame someone who wants mental help. that's seriously low.
January 31st, 08:42 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
True, but the irony is still there.
January 31st, 11:01 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
nah
February 1st, 02:40 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Skurn knows whats up. I can't believe Baphomet got away with this consequence-free
February 3rd, 08:10 AM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
I have friends in high places. I work for the government dickwipe. My own government.
February 11th, 12:59 AM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Baphomet, more like bah-vomit HA! Amiright? ... Ami- Is this thing on...
February 11th, 05:31 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
Okay, there is no point for this thread to exist anymore. It's not moving anywhere.
To one of the senior staff members or scratcher: please delete this thread. Thanks.
February 11th, 06:08 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
It's not moving anywhere? Where exactly would you like it to move TO exactly?

Sure, Baphomets been raging around making a fool of himself, and more than a few people have been reacting to said rage,
But I for one see alot of support and encouragement coming from alot of people here.

Not making an attack on you, I'm genuinely asking what it is you were expecting/wanting from this thread?

I'm sure we'd all be happy discuss whatever topic you'd like provided you communicate along with us!

All being said, I see no reason for this threads deletion.
February 12th, 05:46 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
I'm genuinely asking what it is you were expecting/wanting from this thread?

YEAH. WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING? HELP?

What kind of a stupid question is that? He asked for help, Baphomet decided to be an idiot, and now the thread isn't even about what it used to be! He probably wants this thread deleted because it went nowhere.

Where would you want it to go? Lets talk about Dink and ducks and MLP on a depression thread!

What are you thinking?
February 12th, 10:28 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
I think we need more of Jody's sage advice.
February 12th, 12:11 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
ok... Think you may have misunderstood me there...

I was just trying to open clearer communication for the purpose of trying to be more helpful,
as well as trying to get this thread back on track, rather than giving up on this subject completly as i find this it too important to be ruined by a simple internet troll.

Not just for roamings sake but anyone who might stumble across the thread looking for help.

I apoligize if it came out wrong, never been very good at wording things correctly.
February 12th, 12:23 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
roaming guest, i'm sure a lot of us would like to try and help. but you gotta give us some idea of what you'd like to do. is there anything you've thought of that you'd like to do, but haven't had the strength to do maybe? or maybe something you want to talk about?

?????
February 12th, 12:39 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
there you go, skurnykins is better at this than i am

But that is what i meant to say roaming!
February 12th, 05:54 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
HE'S ALIVE! Ducking christ, I was having bad anxiety thinking something had happened to you.
February 12th, 07:10 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
^^^
February 13th, 03:45 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
Sorry guys, it just felt that there was no more purpose for a thread that went completely off-topic.
You know, there isn't much that I do in my life. Playing video games, watching youtube videos, and reading about old video games.
And school, I hate that. I'm close to finishing high school, and with that I must do something... well, I don't know the proper English word for it.
But I can write the word in the other foreign language I (somewhat) know - German. Abitur. I know at least one of you (JustaGhost) knows German, so perhaps he/she can explain it. One of the problems is: I have no future. I don't know what will happen, but I have no plans. Nothing but uncertainty...
And I feel that I have no real family, and no real home. You know, it's a weird feeling. I can't find my place in the world. A way to describe it could be: I can't find home in my own homeland. Anything I've thought of that I'd like to do, but didn't have the strength to do? Well... there are things.
I thought and dreamt about travelling. But I never travelled any long distance. I have no mood to do anything, and even walking is hard for me.
I also thought that maybe once I would make a few videos, reviewing games, talk about very obscure video games, or hell, even doing commentary on DMODs. But I can never do it. My only other hobbies aside for using the computer are collecting video games and books. But prices are high, and it's hard to come across retro games around here.
I see some of you were worried about me. I guess all I can say is: thanks.
I also noticed "someone" screwed with the title. Very funny.
February 13th, 03:51 PM
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Kory
Peasant Male Croatia
 
I see some of you were worried about me

Angels watch over you.
February 13th, 04:14 PM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
to all: I think that Arbitur means "High School".

to RoamingGuest: Perhaps a person as fluent as you in English, despite it not being "your" language, should give yourself credit for being able to write. All Authors of any value were voracious readers once. Maybe your reading hobby means more to you than you realize. Writing is often a cathartic and fulfilling experience you share with others.

As for finding your way in life, (almost) no one has it easy, really. The thing is don't quit. You will fail. You will feel lost. You will feel cheated. You will see things go wrong. But you will only succeed if you try again, if you keep trying.

Hang in there. Almost everyone around you has some kind of pain inside them. Really. We just keep on keepin' on. We adjust. We struggle. We adapt. We triumph.

Decades ago, I was at a low point, and like my father, I took advice from his father. We each took it in the form of a short inspirational reading. I carried it in printed form in my wallet for years. Then I carried it in text form in my P.D.A. then my smart phone.

Perhaps you will find something in it for yourself.

=======================================================================
Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not;
nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius
will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not;
the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always
will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge
Source:http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Calvin_Coolidge/
=======================================================================
February 13th, 05:22 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
so you lack motivation? HA! Then you're a true dinker like the rest of us!

Aye, motivation is a problem for me too.

Now this may or may not be helpful to you, but its what i do to get through it.

I just do the thing.

Without thinking too much about it.

Need a job? i Go get one.

and yeah i know its not actually that simple, but you can pretend it is lol.

again this is what works for me, wouldnt hurt to give it a try though i guess.

Also i love you all!

EDIT:
also omg slippy, very eloquent!
February 13th, 06:56 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
As a writer, I can confirm there's no substitute for writing a good story, even if it's mostly because you like to read/write. Maybe if you wrote a story, doesn't matter if you plot it out in advance or not, maybe that would help.
The trick with that, though, is knowing that your first will be terrible, and having the will to rewrite it from scratch, but better. I've recently had to do that after fifteen or so chapters because I'd channeled too much sorrow and written myself into an inescapable pit where nothing good would have happened.
I actually have more material for the rewrite than I did when I started writing the story initially.
February 14th, 03:47 AM
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The phrase "No one who wanders is ever truly lost" comes to mind.

Uncertainty has been a constant in me and in some of the people that have been close to me. One of my current closest friends traveled as far as India a few years ago and, I believe, he found some answers there.
I'm over 25 years old, graduated, and I haven't had a stable job and income in quite a bit of time for a few reasons.
You're not alone in this uncertainty.

Retro games? well, TDN is probably one of the places where people know quite a bit (or a lot) about that. Many are even freeware, abandonware or quite cheap if you're truly interested in looking for them; and able to run them in not-so-high-end computers. Some need configuration, yes. Some need a lot of reading, trial and error steps, yes. But if you value retro games for what they are, I believe you could find this effort rewarding.

Books and videogames? You probably could combine those two hobbies into one. There are some quality fan fictions around, but sadly I can't help much there.

"You have to travel to truly know other cultures and places" - For many of us, including me, traveling is not always possible. And if that phrase was true, there probably wouldn't be books, photographs, postal cards, among many other things. Thanks to internet, I have gotten to know people from quite a few places around the world, even if it's just from exchanging text messages.

Make videos about videogames? Well, lately I have been into recording clips that I find funny or curious when playing videogames. They're awful compared to others that already exist, like the ones from a bit more famous youtubers or casters. But they're a start. They will help me in the future to remember fun stuff. In the present, they help me to review my mistakes on competitive or semi-competitive games. I share it to people that might care. I get few views and not many likes, but I don't care much about that. I do it for fun, to remember those moments later on, or to have something to talk about in case someone cares as time passes. And in the process, I'm learning video editing and being able to summarize and highlighting videos of 5 or 10 minutes into 1 or 2 minutes. I believe it's working.
February 14th, 05:42 AM
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MsDink
Peasant Female New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
I had a dear friend commit suicide at christmas - it kills me he thought that was his only choice. I will never get over it.

So can you remember, the simple fact that you can breathe is amazing - please dont give that up !!
February 14th, 10:37 AM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Baphomet, more like bah-vomit HA! Amiright? ... Ami- Is this thing on...

Ha ha! That's a good one.
But alas

Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. >
February 14th, 01:43 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
all in favour of banning baphomet from this thread and any others he pisses on, say aye.

aye.
February 14th, 01:59 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
aye and a bottle a' rum
February 14th, 07:26 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
aye refuse to vote.
February 14th, 08:09 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
dont worry, we're not highly corrupt oppressors. i know the flag on my profile would have you think otherwise.
February 14th, 08:25 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Good cuz aye still refuse to vote
February 14th, 09:59 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
zeddexx's posts count as two votes.
February 15th, 04:49 AM
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JustaGhost
Ghost
 
Sorry that I'm so late at explaining:
Abitur is sort of a test you do after High school. There are a few subjects you have to write a big main-test on (you can choose a few of the subjects, for example biology, but you also have to write about some subjects, for example maths) and at the end you'll get a "school certificate" of the Abitur with the marks of the tests. The better the average the better is your chance of a good job.

@Roaming guest:
I really hope, that, what I write, is really something what will help you. Well, let's give it a try:
I think you hate school for the reason that you've got so much to do for it, right? And yes, learning for the (in German we often just call it "Abi") Abitur is hard. But maybe your motivation fails so often (Can you say that in English?) because you see the whole learning-stuff as one, big thing. But if you begin to learn for the Abitur like that:
First, just pick a little topic of one subject and learn it. Then, pick another little topic and learn that. Maybe, before learning, copy the little topic you want to learn from your exercise book in an extra notebook. And so on and so forth. Just little topics and you will see, it's much easier than learning everything as a big thing. Believe me.
Do you know the book Momo (I think it's translated to English, if not, I don't think you know it( or are you a German also?))? Beppo, the road sweeper says that when he sees the whole street he still has to sweep, he can't sweep any longer, because the street is sooooo long. But he doesn't look at the whole street. First he sweeps one flagstone, then he sweeps another. One flagstone isn't much to sweep and so the work is easy. He just looks at the next flagstone he has to sweep, not further. And after sweeping flagstones for a while he sees:"Oh, wow, I'm at the end of the street and it wasn't even hard!"
You understand what I want to say?

BTW: I'm also happy for your posts that showed that you are still alive.

February 15th, 07:52 AM
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"I thought and dreamt about travelling. But I never travelled any long distance. I have no mood to do anything, and even walking is hard for me."

This got me thinking. Do you like outdoors/nature type stuff at all?

Not sure where you live but if there's any good countryside near you, get out in it
Maybe it's not your thing but I find if feeling down some fresh air really helps. And I don't mean the local park, get away from the city and up high with a decent view if possible.

I'm fortunate to live in Manchester (bet no one ever said that before ) which while not amazing in itself is surrounded by some of the best countryside in the UK. Just a short distance to Wales, the Peak District or the Lake District. Nothing beats being on top of a mountain to lift you up

Of course if you're from Switzerland or somewhere then your definition of "mountain" is very different from mine

Regardless, something more energetic might help a bit. Not that I'm knocking video games in general but if you're feeling dissatisfied then it's probably not helping much just sitting at home on the computer, where all your different activities are variations on the same thing and don't exactly give much fulfillment at the moment.

Try a walk in good scenery, try a gym, swimming, learn something new eg a sport or martial art maybe...

I've got really into mountain biking recently. From just playing about in the local woods it's morphed into a full fledged hobby (*cough*obsession*cough*).
Currently saving up for a better bike which is what made me think of you - it's given me a goal and something to work towards and look forward to.

Anyway... maybe that long ramble* totally missed the mark but it's worth a try

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*Ramble - Get it? Get it? HAW HAW HAW
.....I'll get my coat
February 15th, 12:07 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
@JustaGhost
If I understand correctly, you say that I shoul head step by step, in smaller chunks.
But I'm not sure if I could do this. I just hate learning.

@Sparrowhawk
Honestly, I don't really like being outside. I'm not used to it.
I guess my definition of a mountain would be close to yours.

Man, I live in hills. I hate going up-and-down, I can't get along with people here. I have barely have place in the house.
There is no true wilderness here. I want plains, forests, a home with enough space in a quit place, a family I could feel complete, people who are similar to me -who I can talk about and play video games with them, who I can have fun and adventures with, who can help me find my place. I want the world to be more like I would like it to be.
Sigh... Up to this point, I belived the main reasons for my depression were: the way the world is, my complete lack of friends, and that I'm a little nobody who can't do anything - can't change the world, have no fame at all, doesn't even have money to get games and books, and don't have any power to change his own life, let alone other people's.
But I was wrong in some key ways. What I believed to be secendary reasons for my unhappiness seem to be actually the major reasons - and the reason I could not achieve anything to help myself.
This is not the place to provide a home for me, this is not a place where I can have friends, this is not the place where I can repair my broken family, this is not the place where I can have adventures, this is not the place where I can achieve any success.
It's strange I just realised the biggest problem is the place where I live. I really don't know what should I do now...
February 15th, 12:49 PM
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Striker
Noble United States steam
Daniel, there are clowns. 
It's strange I just realised the biggest problem is the place where I live. I really don't know what should I do now...

Go live somewhere else. Worked for me.
February 15th, 01:33 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
There is no true wilderness here. I want plains, forests, a home with enough space in a quit place, a family I could feel complete, people who are similar to me -who I can talk about and play video games with them, who I can have fun and adventures with, who can help me find my place. I want the world to be more like I would like it to be.

oh man, why didn't you just say so? i was in a similar situation trying to find a place to fit in. but each place i tried didn't really work out. the conversations were impossible to keep up with, things i said would be ignored or not noticed, and it just didn't feel like i belonged at all. when i saw a link pop up to another group i was once looking for again, i hesitated a lot to click on it because i feared it would be the same. and to some degree, yeah, it is. there's no way i'm going to keep up with everything there, but i have talked to some people there and made a friend who was in pretty much the same situation - trying to find a place to fit in and find a friend who's similar.

just keep looking, dood. don't be afraid to join some place and talk or something.
February 15th, 03:06 PM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
Aye.

Is the vote still on?
February 16th, 02:02 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Is the vote still on?

Nope. The poll ended yesterday.
February 16th, 11:46 AM
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Baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
DUCK!
March 14th, 12:45 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
Great... I'm getting more and more depressed...
I don't know what I should do. There's no person or thing for me to live for.
I just don't know what to do. I'm alone. This just sucks... I don't know why I even exist.
...
March 14th, 01:13 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
hey, me too.

so maybe there's something we can do.
March 14th, 02:54 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
To be honest, for the past half-year I've been feeling like shit too. I dunno when or if I'll feel better. Just a feeling of life not changing, or if it would change, it would be for worse. Just a never ending rabbit hole of shit. Where the shit stinks more and more and becomes bigger and bigger.
March 14th, 04:02 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
I have kind of already given up hope for that anything would be better in this life.
Nothing could help me: humans, animals, plants, books, movies, medicine, money, not even video games or divine powers.
Nothing.
But I started thinking... what is that you guys hate in your life? Just to know: is my life better or worse than I think?
March 14th, 05:01 PM
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baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
I have kind of already given up hope for that anything would be better in this life.
Nothing could help me: humans, animals, plants, books, movies, medicine, money, not even video games or divine powers.

What about sex?
March 14th, 05:20 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
worse is subjective.
March 14th, 05:43 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
@Baphomet
Considering I have no friends, I can barely talk to people - well, let's just say chances of me having a girlfriend are close to impossible.
And I doubt that would help me anyway.

@Skurn
Well, it is. But I'm not a person whose worldview is primarily based on objectivity or logic.
March 14th, 09:14 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
But you DO have friends!!?????

I am friend?????

We are friend?????

<3

Everybody friend!!

<3 Yes!! <3

SKURNYKINS TELL HIM
March 14th, 09:18 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
i dunno roaming guest.

but i mean, it's not like i hate him or anything.

you are welcome to send one of the following -

-a hug
-a book detailing ancient arcane secrets passed down by satan's lineage.
March 14th, 09:20 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
SEE ROAMING! skurnykins NEVER sends one of his precious arcane tomes to people he doesn't deem worthy!
March 14th, 09:21 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
i didn't. i need that for my nefarious plans.
March 14th, 09:23 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Shhh give him the tome. Work it into the plans.

Speaking of which i have those monkeys you needed.

ROAMING WLY <3
March 14th, 10:34 PM
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baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 

@ roaming guest.
You take up a sport or something. Speaking of sports, I need to check up my old football (soccer) buddies. I haven't seen the lads in awhile.

Why don't you try this, in fact I order you to do it.
Get about 3 days worth of rations and stay in some nearby woods. If there are none nearby go find some! What you need is some adventure in your life. Explore unknown territory or something. You never know, you just may find something out there you can brag about to us.
I don't want to here this.
"Oh I don't know anything about camping."
If you don't, then learn.
If you have already done this, then do it again. There are new thing out there to discover.
😁
March 16th, 11:30 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Everyone has legitimate and petty reasons to hate life, and I'm not the person to decide if your depression is justified or not. Baphomet actually has a good suggestion. Going out and camping would probably do you more good than harm, even if it's for a day or two in the nearest legal wooded area. Given that it's already getting into spring, it's a good time to do so, unless you've still got snow where you are.
March 16th, 10:28 PM
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baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
I think people who hate their lives are sorry asses. Then there are people like skurn who encourage them to feel ducking sorry for themselves.
STOP TRYING TO MAKE FEEL SORRY FOR YOU!
Sure call me mean, but hey I'm just ttalkinglike how a real man acts. People who act sorry for themselves are not men. They are flimsy gnats!

Act like a ducking man roaming guest! No wonder why you don't have a girl friend yet!

GO OUT INTO THE WORLD AND GO CAMPING! OR FISHING, HUNTING! ETC.
March 16th, 11:36 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
i thought you were done, baph.

shame on you. you really don't have a clue how depression works, do you? i think i said this before, but you don't just do something.

in fact, depressed or not, nothing is as simply as "just do it". i mean, unless it's actually simple like finding things wrong with your post.
March 17th, 02:19 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
and furthermore, enough of this "man" shit.
March 17th, 06:05 AM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
You may be right, I'm not a man, I'm a boy, a child. Too bad my childhood sucked. And because my age and lack of time traveling powers I can't relive it. It's great to be stuck in a point of nowhere. Yeah, I bet YOU could get out of it easily.
Thank you veeerrry much Baphomet, you reallly helped me [in nothing].
Oh well, bye guys...
March 17th, 08:50 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
...
March 17th, 12:46 PM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
cigarette bonca 
You're still a young guy, things WILL get better. Even if nothing in your situation actually improves (which is extremely unlikely on the scale of months and years), things will get better just by virtue of your brain growing older and learning to cope.

I know it sucks to live life when the days drag on and everything feels miserable and meaningless, but there's really nothing to it, except cling on. As long as you're here, at least there's a chance of something better. And if and when you do feel better, you'll be a much greater person for having had to struggle through that shit.
March 17th, 01:44 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Dont take Baphomet seriously, RoamingGuest. I'm already used to him being an idiot -_-
But really, I know your pain. The only way to get out of this loophole of nothingness is finding a solution for it yourself. Only you know what you want or dont want and which one of these you can or cant do.
March 17th, 09:52 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Even fools speak wisdom, sadly Baph spoke only one wise thing, then immediately defecated from his mouth. He won't understand until he experiences it, and that's a sad fact of life. So don't take his negativity to heart, you're the better one because you know yourself better than he ever will.
Besides, being a man is overrated. You're expected to bottle your emotions up like some sort of soda factory. It's better to fortify yourself and get better than to repress until you're basically dead.
March 17th, 09:55 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
wondering what the wisdom was.
March 18th, 01:11 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Going out and enjoying nature. I'm pretty sure it's the only relatively constructive thing he's suggested in this entire thread.
March 18th, 02:01 AM
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zeddexx
Peasant Male New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Baphomet, i strongly suggest you refrain from posting in this thread from now on.

Please.
March 18th, 04:37 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Thing is Baphomet could possibly say something smart for once if he used his dang ass brain. It's like he ignored what RoamingGuest said completely and just rambled about whatever the duck he wanted to ramble about.
March 19th, 12:12 AM
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baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
@skurn
I said I would stop trolling, and this isn't trolling. This isn't ducking depression. Read his ducking posts! He's lazy and bored! He doesn't do any physical activites, he doesn't read books. All he does is play video games. I mean look! He hates his life because he is sick of playing video games! He's a ducking zombie! I am not ashamed of my words nor will I ever be ashamed of anything I say in the future.
@roamingguest
Hard childhood my butt! My father had a worse childhood than you could ever imagine! He was knifed, his mother hates him and favors my uncle who has a fear rabbits. (Yes, true), and later on in his 20's when he was in the army before I was born, he was on leave for a week. He was returning to base when he was ambushed by 5 guys. They nearly beat my father to death. He did die for 3 minutes. But he came back. Is he "depressed" no. He is leading a very good life now. You are just person that never grew up.
Tell me this roaming pest! What are you going to do when you go out into the world by yourself to live on your own?
You don't have a snowballs chance in hell if go on being a ducking quiter!
You need to read books!
You have to do some sort of physical activity.
And you definitely need to find yourself a ducking job!
I was doing odd jobs when I was a ducking 12 year old!
I have made a lot of money and spent on fun and all.
I learned many things doing odd jobs!
I am a ducking bee keeper now!
I know how to take care of horses, and i learned about carpentry.
A ducking toddler could do better than you.

You're not depressed. You are lazy, and you are quiter.

I expect you to get of you ducking ass and do something for once and prove that you are not a quiter.

I like playing video games too, but there is a limit to that crap. You have to do something outside of the technological world! Read! Exercise! Sport! Or do some odd jobs!
March 19th, 01:08 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Let me tell you something about motherducking depression, Baph. It's not being sad or being a bored little duckboy. It's like slowly losing your sense of taste, everything starts to taste bland, maybe even like ash. Things that brought you enjoyment slowly lose meaning to you. You stop caring about what you liked because it feels the same as doing nothing at all. It's not being lazy, and it's not being a quitter. It's having everything spiral out of your control because something outside of your control is constantly making shit worse.
You have abso-DUCKING-lutely no say in how shitty a person's life is until you actually know them in person and know exactly what they go through. I've had good friends ducking die because shitty people like you thought you were being smart and making people see an imagined error of their ways or thought their words were invalid because someone else had 'worse' things happen to them.
Calling him a goddamn pest is not going to make him more likely to listen to you, and it certainly won't motherducking fly with me. ESPECIALLY because I've heard that entire spiel you spoke before, not exactly, but similar enough for me to recognize blatant ducking ignorance.
As someone who's seen how powerful words can be, I know for a fact that careless words can just as easily kill someone who's not in the right frame of mind as shooting them yourself.
I have zero tolerance for that shit, and you should be ashamed of yourself for it, you poor excuse for a human being.
March 19th, 01:28 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
lazy and bored? really? did you know that depression looks JUST LIKE THAT?

i'm done. quite frankly, you're a piece of shit. you have no clue what you're talking about. you have zero experiences and probably will never admit your wrongdoings here.

after the horrendous shit you've said to roaming guest, i don't know why you're not banned or being deleted left and right. you never tell a depressed person these things. i've had enough horseshit lately and if i hear anything happened to roaming because of you, i will personally see that you are punished for it.

you scum. are you even capable of imagining yourself in shitty situations? just try it. right now. imagine you're feeling like garbage. someone comes along and says it's your fault and that you're lazy.

but it's not. it's ducking not. you have no control over this. there may be things that can help or people who can care for you, but you don't just ducking wake up and think. "WELL, I'M DONE FEELING BAD. TIME TO BE HAPPY!"

you don't ducking choose that. how many idiotic "choose happiness" type posts have you been seeing lately? because that never EVER has been how it works. otherwise, we're also choosing to feel like shit and why the HELL would we be doing that??

and the way you spun that story about your dad to try and make roaming feel like his feelings aren't important or that his pain is not allowed is ducking tragic. that's like the asshole that will point to africans or middle easterns who are living in pools of shit or dirt or something all their existence and saying "you think you have a hard life? try living in saudi arabia" or some bullshit just to try and invalidate your feelings as if just because someone somewhere has it worse (subjectively), that's supposed to somehow make you feel better.

do you know how stupid and illogical that sounds?
March 19th, 02:51 AM
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baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 

Krisknox
Let me tell you something about motherducking depression, Baph. It's not being sad or being a bored little duckboy. It's like slowly losing your sense of taste, everything starts to taste bland, maybe even like ash. Things that brought you enjoyment slowly lose meaning to you. You stop caring about what you liked because it feels the same as doing nothing at all. It's not being lazy, and it's not being a quitter. It's having everything spiral out of your control because something outside of your control is constantly making shit worse.
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I agree with kris, that is what depression is like, but that is not what rg is experiencing. Read his first few posts closely.
As for you Skurn. That is not depression! An Arab doesn't even act the way rg does. How should I know? Because when I was in public school,I was buddies with one. He would say the same shit as I have. This is the last post i'll make on here.

Really you have to admit, it's pretty lame to create a thread about how you hate your life on a freaking video game forum. That's why I think it's stupid. Really, if your really were depressed you would only talk to people in real life, not people on line. I know this because I have been there. When I was 8 my dog was killed on the road outside our house. It hit me like a ton bricks. The only way I got myself to feel better was when I talked to my great grandmother. She made feel better with her kind words. That depression only lasted a month while rg's has been going on since last november,and his so called depression is actually boredom.
And to put very bluntly, I believe he's just looking for attention.
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Skurn
lazy and bored? really? did you know that depression looks JUST LIKE THAT?

March 19th, 03:52 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Read his first few posts closely.

Ok let's see

So, I'm completely dissatisfied with my life and the entire world.
I don't see anything worth living for.


Uh...yeah man. Boredom. How did I not see that?
March 19th, 06:00 AM
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r0ar
Peasant
 
Hey. Almost everything you described about yourself applies to me too. no friends. only talk to family. not satisfied with that either. no going outside (my average going out might be 1 in 10 days and that's just walking for an hour or so). not enjoying the process I have to go through to get things done. no job. one day I feel like I can do anything and loads of ideas flow inside my head and the next day I am completely unmotivated and depressed (never been to a doctor but I think my problem is ultradian bipolar disorder). So all I'm saying is, I know what you're going through and I completely feel you (hell I made an account just so I could reply to you)

Now enough about me. I think there is something you CAN do.
You said you hate to put effort in anything, and I get that, but I think to get over this you have to think smaller. if you are even more like me, whenever you think up a new project you think too big. like something that takes weeks of effort to complete. I think THAT is the problem. you said something about writing reviews for games you like. I think that's your way in. You gotta take projects you could complete in only one day (one sitting even). I know actually doing them is still not your cup of tea but compared to feeling awful everyday it's completely worth trying and it's actually doable. Not saying you have to make a career out of it or you have to do it everyday from now on... I'm saying only do it once (if you think you still can't manage that, then make it a short review). then put it out there. see what happens. if you were happy with the result (the feedback or even the fact that you actually completed something) do it again later.
I hope this helps somehow.
by the way, you are still much more sociable than me. I'm not even on any social media or forum (except for this one which I joined to reply to this and tweeter which I haven't even tweeted anything on and only use to follow a few people I admire)
Hope you feel better soon.
March 19th, 08:54 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Female United States xbox steam duck bloop
i like pie 
As for you Skurn. That is not depression!

you don't get to decide what depression is. and you're completely, 100% wrong.

An Arab doesn't even act the way rg does. How should I know? Because when I was in public school,I was buddies with one.

the duck are you spewing this time? whatever it is, you're basing something as complex and widespread as depression on ONE. PERSON. what else is there to even say about that shit?

Really, if your really were depressed you would only talk to people in real life, not people on line. I know this because I have been there. When I was 8 my dog was killed on the road outside our house.

bullSHIT. BULLSHIT. the internet has been used countless times for people to vent and connect with people when it's impossible for them to do so in person. now you're showing that not only do you not have a clue what depression is, you also are apparently totally ignorant on how anxiety works/really, people in general. there's a gigantic ducking amount of people who cannot speak like they do in person like they do online unless they're comfortable enough with said person. you don't get the sheer among of personal or scary things people have been able to get out there that they wouldn't in person.

and with the dog thing, AGAIN, you are basing depression on one SINGLE THING. not only that, but one single thing you experienced at 8! DUCKING 8.

this isn't about the sadness of losing a dog as a small child, this is about the sudden, crushing feeling of uselessness and total lack of self worth. you're the one who clearly didn't read, or read enough into, the original post or anything else roaming said if you're really going to compare two completely different things like that.

yes, you can become depressed from things like that, but you were 8 and reacting to a dog. roaming is quite a bit older and feels useless and beyond hope. i'm sure there are plenty of people who became depressed from their dog dying. hell, imagining someone whose only friend or companion is a dog becoming depressed, that makes perfect sense. but from all the garbage you've said and all the dangerous, insensitive things you have said this whole time, it definitely does not look like you know what we're talking about. krisknox said it before, it's not sadness. that's a part of it, sure. but it's not JUST sadness.

i've experienced both multiple times and i can tell you the two are utterly ducking different.

oh, wow, they are different.

That depression only lasted a month while rg's has been going on since last november,and his so called depression is actually boredom.
And to put very bluntly, I believe he's just looking for attention.


of course it's been going on since last november. THAT'S how depression works. it's not some quick little thing some magical discussion with your grandma can fix in a month. it's a rollercoaster of bullshit where it hits you out of nowhere from time to time, or hits you in reaction to whats currently happening. it's a legitimate disorder. it takes ducking years to get out of it. and really, not just time, either. you need help. which ties into the second part.

roaming is not simply looking for attention. this thread was about help, too. and really, who isn't ducking looking for attention? is that really a bad thing? humans are a touchy species, kinda like a cat. a lot of things can be eased or fixed by touch. in relationships especially, and with cats, that touch is obtained by getting attention.

case in point, you act like looking for attention is a bad thing. but, as i described, it's like an instinct. you WANT attention. you NEED attention. you NEED someone there to help and care for you. know why? because you don't solve this on your own. you need support.

YOU have given no support. in fact, you've been the total opposite of what anyone looking for help, comfort, and support needs.

i can't even imagine how you thought any of your posts were acceptable. it's sort of ducking baphling. all this backlash you've gotten and you're still insisting you're right. all the many things we've said, and we're apparently wrong.

no. you're wrong. take your argument to any other place talking about these things and they'll say you're wrong too. hell, they might be even less lenient than we've been here. the things you said are truly terrible.
March 19th, 01:25 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant Male United States steam
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Look, Baph, if you feel like you actually want to help, do a lot of research into depression, and then give advice. You are doing the exact opposite of what anyone who is legitimately depressed needs to see or hear. You've never personally experienced depression, I personally have. I know what it's like to feel so goddamn useless because nothing I ever tried hard to do bore fruit, that I actually wanted to kill myself so that the people I knew and loved didn't have to deal with my bullshit anymore.
I had actual career prospects that I could have conceivably gotten, but failed to get because it takes me so ducking long to learn something relatively simple like where something goes or how to do a specific task. I've endangered people because of my ineptitude, because when it comes to common ducking sense, sometimes I really ducking don't think, even though I've been told my entire life that I'm smarter than people think I am. Right now, I am still recovering from that, but poorly, because my dad doesn't believe in psychiatry being actually useful and thinks psychiatrists are all drug pushers who want everyone on drugs so they can make more cash. It's ducking difficult, especially when you have an overbearing assbag yelling at you because you can't generate enough care or energy to even bathe yourself, let alone do a simple chore that you're supposed to do to continue living rent-free.
I am goddamn lucky that my mom loves me enough that she'll never throw me off the streets, that she doesn't pry into what happened when I was gone for a year trying to be an adult. I am so ducking lucky even though I don't have the proper resources to actually do what I need to get over this bullshit. And that's what depression is, it's bullshit. It's having the capacity to do something, but you're exhausted all the ducking time. You try to do something, to make your life better, to power through and get a job even though literally nowhere around you is hiring, or finish that game that will trickle in some revenue, or even take advantage of some easy to do things that'll make things infinitely better, but in the end, you just want to sleep because you're so ducking tired you can't even bring yourself to do a token amount of work to survive.
Hell, the only thing that's been keeping me going aside from sheer determination to see one of my books published is the fact that there's someone else who's dealing with the same shit as me, who doesn't have the same tenacity, who doesn't have the sheer ducking rage to want to conquer the situation so he doesn't die a complete screwup. I know that Roaming's problem is valid, that what he's going through is worse than what I am, because I've hit rock bottom, and I'm one slippery slope away from plummeting down again.

@Roaming, don't let this duckwad get the better of you. It sucks, it hurts, it's ducking bullshit the shit he's said to you. But the thing is, he's just another obstacle you need to overcome. He represents the sheer ignorance of what you and I have to go through to even function on a day-to-day basis. I'm emotionally crippled because I couldn't handle responsibility, because I was never taught how to handle responsibility effectively. We both have coping mechanisms that don't work as well as they should because the situation changed.
You have it worse than me, you don't have some of the things I have, the will to bite back like a cornered animal, the tenacity to try and fail over and over and over and over again. But, that doesn't mean it's hopeless. You have literally everybody else in the entire forum trying to help you in a constructive way, as best as we can even though most of us don't know what to do to help you, personally. Hell, I only said what I said in this specific post to drive a point to Baph that he's a shitbag for what he said, and not to divert the attention from your needs.
I'm used to doing things alone, if you can promise me you won't end it, that you'll try to find the determination or tenacity or even the rage to try, I can promise to be supportive and helpful whenever I can be.
So, yeah. Let's conquer this shit together. Alright?
March 22nd, 05:59 PM
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RangerLord
Peasant Male bloop
I'm here, just hidden in the shadows. 
How am I doing to live on my own? Likely in no way. I'm completely incapable to do anything. I tried to read books sometimes. They didn't give me any feel of happyness or conclusion. Every time I do any physical activity, I get tired very soon. I never understood why people say they feel better if they move or go outside. I never felt better when doing any of these. So, I'm lazy? That's definitely true. I give up easily? The list of things I given up is looong. I was in such a mood since a far longer time than November. It's now two or three years since this is the case. I tried to talk about this with people in real life: family, teachers, my psychologist, classmates... I complained to all of them, and not a single one of them could help. The general conclusion was, they can't do anything. They would like to help me, but they don't know how. And I also don't know how. The other conclusion was that I should do something for it to make it better - tough call, than it's doomed. And don't get me started with strangers, I can never talk to any person I don't know. Great to see this thread became a flame war. I guess it was a mistake to create it in the first place. Thank you guys, I know all (-1) of you tried to help me, but now I see it makes no sense to waste time and energy trying to help someone who's a loser and is beyond saving.
March 22nd, 09:00 PM
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baphomet
Peasant Male Germany
Tanke och tal!!! Ro! Ro in sinnets land!!! 
I recall reading a sentence in one of your posts waaaaay up there.

"I don't like putting effort into anything." (might not be exact, but close enough.)

Then answer me this. What's it gonna take to get out of your depression?

Yep.

I have seen people list some great ideas on this thread. God damn, surely one appeals to you.

Oh and " I've tried physical activities, but I get tired really soon." OF COURSE GET TIRED REALLY SOON IF YOU'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO IT AT FIRST!

Sorry I promised that my last post on this thread was going to be the last, but I had to get that out of imperfect system.

Gute nacht.
March 22nd, 09:35 PM
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redink1
King Male United States xbox steam bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
FYI: Deleted by RoamingGuest's request.