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Echoes of the Ancients

January 23rd 2016, 12:13 AM
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millimeter
Peasant Male Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
Can I presume that this DMod can only be played nicely in Linux, using Freedink, or is there a version of Freedink that will work in Windows?

The DMod will load initially in 1.08, I like the rainbow rug, but crashes promptly on going outside.

It also loads in 1.09HD, but the rainbow rug has been replaced with the original wood panel flooring. Hardness issues seemed to plague me, so I thought I'd take a look in WDE++. It reported that "SET_SPRITE_INFO" had been used 232 times too many.

My only Linux box atm is a work machine, and VirtualBox is a little laggy on my windows box. I will assemble a personal Linux box, and give this a try ... with the amount of works you have clearly put into this, I have high expectations.

Mm.
January 23rd 2016, 01:59 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
January 23rd 2016, 07:30 AM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
cigarette bonca 
There's a Windows version of Freedink. I'm not a Linux user, (Linux is for people who want to read a 10-page manual every time they try to install something and then download 100 different little files all over the internet, and not get the thing to work anyway, as often as not - although the last time I did anything with Linux was something like 2005, maybe it's better now.) but the only thing I use is Freedink; it's better on Windows than either regular v1.08 or DinkHD.
January 23rd 2016, 09:16 AM
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shevek
Peasant Netherlands
Never be afraid to ask, but don't demand an answer 
Linux is for people who want to ...

That hasn't been true for like 10 years.

the last time I did anything with Linux was something like 2005, maybe it's better now

Yes, that.

Also, I normally don't complain about people saying "Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux", but if I see yeoldetoast's post and then yours right after it, I can only say:

Really?
January 23rd 2016, 12:02 PM
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millimeter
Peasant Male Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.

Yes, but I'll reach a bit and suggest that Linux Kernel could still exist without the originating GNU components, though certainly the originating GNU concept is worth the inclusion, whereas GNU itself never had a stable release until the Linux kernel arrived.

I had worked with Unix a little in the past, Linux isn't that much of a stretch to adjust to but still there is much to learn and explore. I think Gnu and Tux are strange bed-fellows, but somehow it works ... and how.
January 23rd 2016, 12:19 PM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
cigarette bonca 
Ha Ha! Maybe I should give Linux another try sometime.

About GNU/Linux, I must admit to not having read yeoldetoast's post last time; was on a touchscreen phone, I barely even skim through the posts I'm replying to when doing that.

I could get behind calling Linux GNU instead of Linux. GNU/Linux however is a terrible name that should never be used, especially if you have to use it in speech. But unless/until GNU gets traction as a name, the majority of people wouldn't know what I'm speaking of. Linux is the universally recognized term for that family of operating system, even if inaccurate.
January 23rd 2016, 12:31 PM
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millimeter
Peasant Male Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
There's a Windows version of Freedink.
I nearly asked a goofy question, then actually paid attention and downloaded the data file as well.

I was confused the first time through as it gave me an error message, suggesting it had looked in /usr..., et al. I presumed it was a linux only distribution but then I mused ... "when all else fails, read the instructions".

I'm not a Linux user, (Linux is for people who want to read a 10-page manual ...

I work with Kali-linux a bit with work. I agree that for those who were brought up on Windows taking care of all the back-end stuff for them, Linux can seem a bit daunting. Though the price point is a contributing factor, there are simply some things that can be done more natively in a Unix-like environment, that Windows likes to obfuscate.

Edit:
I neglected to thank everyone here that led me to making it work.
Now everything is just Ducky.

Mm.
January 23rd 2016, 12:40 PM
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GOKUSSJ6
Peasant Male Poland steam
Everyone should get a pizza for free in each week. 
Ha Ha! Maybe I should give Linux another try sometime.

If you want to give it another try, i suggest going with Linux Mint.
January 23rd 2016, 12:48 PM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
cigarette bonca 
I nearly asked a goofy question, then actually paid attention and downloaded the data file as well.

I think it's actually prefereable to put freedink.exe into the same folder as original Dink, then just direct DFArc to use freedink.exe instead of dink.exe. (Or direct DFArc to get the game stuff from the original Dink directory even if Freedink isn't in the same place, or copy the data from Dink Smallwood\Dink\sound\ into the FreeDink directory) That way, you get all the music and sounds of original Dink, but running through Freedink.

The Freedink data file has its own sounds and music, but it doesn't have replacements for all of them, and some of the new sounds aren't super high quality. (Beuc's still looking for replacements)
January 24th 2016, 04:04 PM
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shevek
Peasant Netherlands
Never be afraid to ask, but don't demand an answer 
Beuc's still looking for replacements

Thanks for reminding me of that. I had recorded the missing sounds a while ago and have just sent them to him.
January 24th 2016, 08:31 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
That's good since he's had that sounds page up since at least 2008.
November 8th, 03:46 AM
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millimeter
Peasant Male Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
If you want to give it another try, i suggest going with Linux Mint.

Sorry for the necro-post, but I concur.
I've been using mostly Mint at work the last 2 years and for anyone coming from Windows, this is a gentle transition.
November 8th, 04:21 AM
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kerrek
Peasant Male United States
oao 
i like that toast posted an ancient copypasta and nobody noticed
November 8th, 01:35 PM
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twp
Peasant
 
I have to contribute to this thread because I too am a Linux user. I've been using Linux for decades, with occasional interludes of trying to dance to the Windows(r) band. It ended badly with the release of Win 7 and I now am a Linux only shop.

For those still stuck in the Redmond camp (you may be forced there due to work requirements) I highly advise learning Linux.

Please disregard the negative comments (some are very out of date) from some of the previous posters. Do your own due diligence research and make an informed decision. It is irrelevant whether you need to say GNU/Linux or just Linux. Let us not quibble like an English teacher over names; It Is Linux Which Makes It Work.

I now use Linux Mint (XFCE and KDE desktops). It just works for me. If you are making the transition from Windows(r), you will find the XFCE desktop similar enough to be comfortable.

WRT this thread, Dink runs very well under Linux (FreeDink). It also runs quite well using 32bit hardware. Another advantage of the Linux Mint distributions.
November 8th, 03:43 PM
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GOKUSSJ6
Peasant Male Poland steam
Everyone should get a pizza for free in each week. 
Yo, don't forget MATE and using PPAs from sites such as LaunchPad.

Another advantage of the Linux Mint distributions

Currently most Linux distros are ditching the 32-bit system support in favour of 64-bit, but the 32-bit packages and libraries are intact.

Now i am rolling on ArchLinux.
November 8th, 04:01 PM
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toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
Then what the duck is android? It uses Linux kernel, but a bit modified. And if:
OS = kernel + user interface (and some programs), why GNU/linux???

PS
anyone willing to answer me linux... ehm, pardon me GNU/Linux related questions from time to time, private chat me

PSS
Welcome back Shevek